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re: Tuscaloosa News editorial:"DA reasoning sows distrust in the system"
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:02 pm to chattabama
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:02 pm to chattabama
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Do you think every 18 year old who screws around with 14 year olds gets probation? Do you think the fact that he was a highly sought after athlete had anything to do with his consequences?
It absolutely had something to do with it. Still, in the end, he was punished. He was on probation and had to sit out a year before entering college. Oh yeah, and he was recruited by Saban even after the incident. When it comes to football talent people will overlook A LOT.
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:04 pm to MightyYat
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He was on probation
What happened when he violated the terms of his probation?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:09 pm to iglass
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Make no mistake, I am so conservative that my right arm does not reach far enough. But in this case, it appears that the road these men were going down was made visible and they have been given a second chance. There were no major felonies involved, and frankly, what they WERE charged with is something that could easily happen to any of us. I have myself bought a used gun before. Far better to give someone a second chance than contribute to the horrifying incarceration rates for trivial matters. There were no identifiable victims in the charges for these guys.
Good post. Well said.
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Nonetheless, this situation has been and continues to be addressed outside the legal system but within the coaching system for our team. It's arguable which set of punishments we might consider to be worse if we were the ones facing it. But - giving second chances and earning your way back into good graces is another matter entirely. Rest assured that Saban doesn't take this stuff lightly and if you really think that, you haven't been paying attention. JMHO.
we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't think Saban likes his program potentially embarrassed but I'll be surprised if there is truly much if any discipline meted out.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:13 pm to chattabama
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What happened when he violated the terms of his probation?
Are you new here? Team vote dummy.
He was put on another 2 years of probation and ordered to do community service. He was suspended from the team and worked at a homeless shelter.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:14 pm to chattabama
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Fact remains that blindsiding someone could lead to serious consequences for that person. Thankfully Hill is a weak baby back bitch who wouldn't fight someone unless it was a surprise attack.
Dude. You are talking about a starting RB in the NFL, for one. Secondly, do you not see that you are using flawed comparisons to JUSTIFY what happened here? The kids were idiots, they did in fact get caught in a car with stolen weapons and pot. There is an apparent error in police procedure. I just don't see the point in finger pointing to other players from other teams and saying "oh look he messed up worse than our guys". A large faction of your fanbase is ready to just wipe this clean because they aren't in "trouble". I think that speaks volumes about what could happen behind the scenes in a situation like this, and what you guys seem to be ok with, but you don't have to drag everyone that has ever gotten in trouble into it.
Personally, I am happy that these guys got off; the DA should use discretion when bringing charges on people. However, by saying what he said, he blatantly gave them preferential treatment for being football players. It's an inconsistent precedent that he now needs to follow if he wants to retain any amount of credibility.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:15 pm to I-59 Tiger
The problem isn't this case being dismissed since there's no real victim nor any real thing to suggest these kids are such dangerous criminals that the government needs to spend tens of thousands of dollars putting them in jail .
The problem is that any two kids who simply go to their jobs, go to college etc etc don't need to be going to jail for crap like this either.
The DA's choice of words was pretty dumb for someone you'd think may have some type of education and experience in these matters though.
The problem is that any two kids who simply go to their jobs, go to college etc etc don't need to be going to jail for crap like this either.
The DA's choice of words was pretty dumb for someone you'd think may have some type of education and experience in these matters though.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:17 pm to I-59 Tiger
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we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't think Saban likes his program potentially embarrassed but I'll be surprised if there is truly much if any discipline meted out.
It is absolutely true that Saban has no interest in seeing his program embarrassed, that's a fact. Despite your doubts, though... rest assured that outside of any real jail time, what they will undergo under team discipline will be far worse than they would otherwise. It is being addressed, will continue to be addressed throughout the summer, and nothing will be handed to them easily - there will be a process of earning back. And from our perspective, it will be internal and private.
JMWQHO.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:37 pm to OceanMan
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OceanMan
Can you link me to your posts decrying Hill's slap on the wrist?
Otherwise you just look like a hypocrite.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:38 pm to chattabama
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Can you link me to your posts decrying Hill's slap on the wrist?
Otherwise you just look like a hypocrite.
For the record, I called Hill a pussy from day 1 of the punch shite.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:41 pm to chattabama
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Can you link me to your posts decrying Hill's slap on the wrist?
Otherwise you just look like a hypocrite.
What are you even talking about?
ETA: Oh I see, you think I am a hypocrite, beause i would have needed to comment on every situation before this in order to comment on this one. No sure how I couldn't make sense of that at first
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:46 pm to iglass
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rest assured that outside of any real jail time, what they will undergo under team discipline will be far worse than they would otherwise
fines, court costs and attorney fees?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:59 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Tuscaloosa News
Swift punishment forthcoming.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:18 pm to I-59 Tiger
quote:You think even if one of them had any common sense they would admit they get special treatment? But I bet they can't find a single DA who has used a dumber excuse than they shouldn't be charged because they are outside sweating.
But honestly Alabama fans, if an LSU,Auburn or Tennessee player had been in the same situation you wouldn't think something appeared out of sorts?
I can't wait to see how many lawyers of football players are going to try to use this defense in the future.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:24 pm to I-59 Tiger
Entitled society where no one is accountable. Nothing new.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:33 pm to civiltiger07
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"I want to emphasize once again that the main reason I'm doing this is that I refuse to ruin the lives of two young men who have spent their adolescence and teenage years, working and sweating, while we were all in the air conditioning,”
I still cant get over this quote
this DA should be so fricked 
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:02 pm to I-59 Tiger
Lol evryone knows the da must have been paid off lol
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:08 pm to I-59 Tiger
People should be glad these young men got a second chance. Whining about Alabama and special treatment is silly. A Louisiana DA did this. He would have treated LSU players the same.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 6:17 pm to Pinche Cabron
I was for dismissing both. Still am.
Before we get the holier than thou shite, Jordan jefferson dam near killed a guy outside a bar. I also remember him playing so just shut that shite up right now. How many drug tests did honey badger fail and don't say one or two. The SCHOOL "finally" Lollolol.....dismissed him, not the team. We've ALL got idiots.
Before we get the holier than thou shite, Jordan jefferson dam near killed a guy outside a bar. I also remember him playing so just shut that shite up right now. How many drug tests did honey badger fail and don't say one or two. The SCHOOL "finally" Lollolol.....dismissed him, not the team. We've ALL got idiots.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 6:43 pm to I-59 Tiger
Definition of the term melt. Great work.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 6:47 pm to nc14
They got special treatment because they were football players from Monroe.
FWIW the DA would have to prove either one of them knew or should have known the gun was stolen.
FWIW the DA would have to prove either one of them knew or should have known the gun was stolen.
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