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re: Tuscaloosa News editorial:"DA reasoning sows distrust in the system"
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:59 am to bamawriter
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:59 am to bamawriter
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I see your point. But surely you understand the difference between trying to make up two passengers in a car and trying to make up a Colombian gang murdering someone over a drug debt.
in terms of defense attorney might lie or present something they were told regardless of how feaseable they thought it was to support their client no I don't understand the difference
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:00 am to Funky Tide 8
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The gun was stolen? They clearly discovered that Cam wasn't the one who stole it.
In all seriousness, do u have the link to that. I thought I saw somewhere that they just couldn't prove it was Cam's gun.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:01 am to thelawnwranglers
You are going to dislocate something if you keep reaching like that.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:07 am to bamawriter
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You are going to dislocate something if you keep reaching like that.
Lol reaching we aren't not even on the same page of discussion here.
The only known mention of additional people in the car has been put fourth by the defense attorney. To me that doesn't make it a verified fact. Also it doesn't make a difference. This thread is about an editorial "DA reasoning sows distrust in the system". The reasoning absolutely sows distrust, and it doesn't matter if there were 2 people in the car 30 clowns it doesn't make a difference. I agree the DA reasoning sows distrust.
Stop stumping for your boys innocents and participate in the current thread discussion and topic. Does the reasoning sow distrust?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:10 am to bamawriter
Legalize NOW. Stolen Gun (not just guns) seemed to elevate this case for me. However, unless it can be proved he stole it, then he was never going down hard. No time to get into the right to bear arms, but they have a right to have firearms.
Still many want to criticize Auburn because 4 players were in the car with less than one MaryJane Cig and that became a federal case on this forum and Al.com. (Yes, I believe Alabama media is very biased, they play to the majority of the state, smart business)
Still many want to criticize Auburn because 4 players were in the car with less than one MaryJane Cig and that became a federal case on this forum and Al.com. (Yes, I believe Alabama media is very biased, they play to the majority of the state, smart business)
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:26 am to allin2010
DA's dumb arse quote is really bad for all- makes legal system seem pointless, further pushes the idea that has been around for years of backwoods corrupt LA politics, and starts the crap being thrown that bama had a hand in the decision. Not saying bama did - there will be plenty of posters, bloggers, and hack journalists making that argument.
Also way it was delivered - lack of evidence - but really it was bc I didn't want to for personal beliefs - which makes it sound even worse.
Also way it was delivered - lack of evidence - but really it was bc I didn't want to for personal beliefs - which makes it sound even worse.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:30 am to thelawnwranglers
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Stop stumping for your boys innocents (sigh) and participate in the current thread discussion and topic. Does the reasoning sow distrust?
Yes. The DA's public statement was stupid. However, his actual reasoning, as stated in his filing, is that there is insufficient evidence to prosecute. In the end, his stupid public statement means dick.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:37 am to thelawnwranglers
quote:No, it wasn't mentioned in the police report because he let the let the other 2 go before he filed charges against the two that just happened to be Alabama football players.
was that mentioned in the police report? or was it just something the defense attorney said.
And, it was the lawyer who stated that there were 2 other people in the vehicle who were let go. All four were handcuffed but 2 were let go.
At the end, he explains that, as far as the felony charge of a gun with drugs, there has to be an action taking place with the gun... like using it to shoot drug dealers, etc.
Listen to the lawyer's take on this video LINK
He says that it was not illegal to be in the park that was closed. He says that Hootie brought the gun to the attention of the police officer and it was not illegal to have gun in Louisiana. "There's no law against carrying a gun in La, in open view"
After Jones called attention to the gun, all 4 in the car were handcuffed even though there were no cause to do so.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:40 am to bamawriter
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Yes. The DA's public statement was stupid. However, his actual reasoning, as stated in his filing, is that there is insufficient evidence to prosecute. In the end, his stupid public statement means dick.
it sows distrust lol! I guess that is fair though
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:42 am to thelawnwranglers
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The only known mention of additional people in the car has been put fourth by the defense attorney.
Would that not be a serious offence for a defense lawyer to lie to a DA about what took place during a police arrest.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:42 am to jatebe
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No, it wasn't mentioned in the police report because he let the let the other 2 go before he filed charges against the two that just happened to be Alabama football players.
makes it sound corrupt no
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:43 am to jatebe
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Would that not be a serious offence for a defense lawyer to lie to a DA about what took place during a police arrest.
lawyer wasn't there - if his clients tell him xyz he isn't responsible for validating it.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:47 am to thelawnwranglers
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lawyer wasn't there - if his clients tell him xyz he isn't responsible for validating it.
The DA confirmed it, so I think we can agree that the point is moot.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:52 am to I-59 Tiger
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And with Saban's history of leninecy
This isn't true.
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opponents 'melting', "there was nothing there" ,etc , the whole episode looks bad.
People are melting because the DA used the words "air conditioning."
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:02 am to I-59 Tiger
At least these two gumps didn't beat or rape a girl so I'll save my outrage for something more serious like bribing a DA.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:10 am to mikeb0870
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Two different events but wasn't Jordan Jefferson arrested and the grand jury cleared him and other players.
But this didn't even get as far as the Jordan Jefferson incident. And Jefferson missed quite a few games in 2011 because of it.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:12 am to spslayto
Jeffersons violent crime charges were still pending.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:18 am to JuiceTerry
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Jeffersons violent crime charges were still pending.
My point exactly...after the grand jury didn't indict. This didn't even make it to the grand jury. Perhaps the DA believed he didn't have enough to get an indictment-- we really have no idea.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:26 am to spslayto
quote:I think the DA believed exactly that, after reviewing the evidence or lack of evidence. The case against Cam/Hootie was weak and lacked enough verifiable evidence to prosecute.
My point exactly...after the grand jury didn't indict. This didn't even make it to the grand jury. Perhaps the DA believed he didn't have enough to get an indictment-- we really have no idea.
Now the DA's comments in the wake of his decision was just stupid. But that's Louisiana's problem, not our's.
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