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re: Tuscaloosa News editorial:"DA reasoning sows distrust in the system"
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:16 am to civiltiger07
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:16 am to civiltiger07
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"I want to emphasize once again that the main reason I'm doing this is that I refuse to ruin the lives of two young men who have spent their adolescence and teenage years, working and sweating, while we were all in the air conditioning,”
I've stayed out of this mostly, but this is a fricking stupid thing for a DA to say regardless of what the facts of the case may be.
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:16 am to I-59 Tiger
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But honestly Alabama fans, if an LSU,Auburn or Tennessee player had been in the same situation you wouldn't think something appeared out of sorts?
Yeah, it's just natural for fans to see something out of sorts when it's another team's players but not when it's their own. I have no inside info but it appears that there was a problem with the search so the evidence wouldn't be admissible. The DA actually made it look worse by his air conditioning statement...if he'd just left it at insufficient evidence, it still would've looked out of sorts but nowhere near as bad as that statement made it. DAs are not dumb folks, so I think that had to be a calculated statement...
I was also surprised to find out so late that there were 4 people in the car...and that the other 2 were not arrested. Don't know why that wasn't in the initial report. Not saying Cam & Hootie were innocent by any means, but with 4 folks in the car, I don't see how you can arrest only 2 and let the other 2 go...
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:16 am to Patton
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If some of you truly believe the University of Alabama has some random DA in Louisiana in their back pocket, there is no help for you. Why even attempt a decent conversation?
There are millions of dollars on the line for Cam personally and for the football team. If you think it is outside of the realm of possibility there is no hope for you. Have you seen how far fans of all the SEC teams are willing to go? Add in the fact that there a few people that stand to make a quite a few dollars off of Cam and anything is possible. To me it seems clear that they didn't have the evidence, but to say it is crazy to think we live in a world that it wouldn't happen is misguided in my book
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:20 am to thelawnwranglers
A 26 year DA is willing to put not just his reputation, job, but also freedom for some money to help out a football player from a school he has no connections too. Are DAs in Louisiana that poorly paid or just unethical?
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 9:23 am
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:21 am to Patton
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Are DAs in Louisiana that poorly paid or just one unethical?
Possibly both
I am not saying it is likely so I don't think we are too far from agreeing.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 9:23 am
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:26 am to thelawnwranglers
It was less than a gram of weed. Big fricking deal.
The gun was stolen? They clearly discovered that Cam wasn't the one who stole it.
So where is the preferential treatment? Even if you believe that they should have gotten charged for the weed, I couldn't give a frick less, because Marijuana laws are absolutely idiotic. I look at it as a win for the fact of drug laws being fricking stupid.
The gun was stolen? They clearly discovered that Cam wasn't the one who stole it.
So where is the preferential treatment? Even if you believe that they should have gotten charged for the weed, I couldn't give a frick less, because Marijuana laws are absolutely idiotic. I look at it as a win for the fact of drug laws being fricking stupid.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:27 am to thelawnwranglers
You are right. It isn't impossible, I'd say just highly improbable. The statement he made, put his decision in a much worse light then it needed to be. I wonder if the arresting officer did something wrong and instead of throwing him under the bus and exposing the department and his office to blowback, he hastily throw together some half assed statement about sweat and A/C.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:27 am to Funky Tide 8
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So where is the preferential treatment? Even if you believe that they should have gotten charged for the weed, I couldn't give a frick less, because Marijuana laws are absolutely idiotic. I look at it as a win for the fact of drug laws being fricking stupid.
The DA made a dumb quote so that clouds the fact that they clearly couldn't make a case
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:30 am to Patton
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You are right. It isn't impossible, I'd say just highly improbable. The statement he made, put his decision in a much worse light then it needed to be. I wonder if the arresting officer did something wrong and instead of throwing him under the bus and exposing the department and his office to blowback, he hastily throw together some half assed statement about sweat and A/C.
Agreed that is what it seems like. Seems like a 100% honest statement would have been "we didn't collect evidence correctly and it is questionable as to whether the search was even legal. Therefore we can't make a case at this time."
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:34 am to thelawnwranglers
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The DA made a dumb quote so that clouds the fact that they clearly couldn't make a case
I agree that it was a dumb quote, but how does it "cloud" anything?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:38 am to Funky Tide 8
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I agree that it was a dumb quote, but how does it "cloud" anything?
It appears that his decision to prosecute in part was based on factors that were not was a law broken and can we prove it.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:39 am to I-59 Tiger
I see the editorial conveniently left out the fact that there were 2 other people in the car that were not charged.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:44 am to jatebe
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I see the editorial conveniently left out the fact that there were 2 other people in the car that were not charged.
was that mentioned in the police report? or was it just something the defense attorney said. Also what is the importance of that possible fact in regards to this article?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:48 am to thelawnwranglers
The other two guys were not mentioned in the incident report. It seems odd that a defense attorney would make up two phantom passengers.
As for the significance of those two unnamed passengers: if you are trying to make a case based on constructive possession, it's a pretty big problem that the report completely fails to mention half of the possible possessors.
As for the significance of those two unnamed passengers: if you are trying to make a case based on constructive possession, it's a pretty big problem that the report completely fails to mention half of the possible possessors.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:48 am to thelawnwranglers
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Also what is the importance of that possible fact in regards to this article?
Because in her world Alabama is incapable under any circumstance of any wrong doing.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:51 am to I-59 Tiger
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And with Saban's history of leninecy I'm sure these boys will have to run an extra lap or two when fall camp starts.
It would be interesting to see the number of players Saban has processed at Bama due to lack of talent vs the ones he has dismissed for discipline issues. I'd be willing to bet the later is much smaller.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:52 am to bamawriter
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It seems odd that a defense attorney would make up two phantom passengers.
you watch any of the OJ Made in America Series?
lol
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:52 am to Funky Tide 8
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I agree that it was a dumb quote, but how does it "cloud" anything?
I'm not sure why Bama fans are so defensive on this- I don't and I'm sure most (ok rational people) don't blame Bama etc for this. It's a stupid DA being a fanboy and willingly admitting to the public that them being football players weighed into his decision. That's what makes it cloudy.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:53 am to piggilicious
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I'm not sure why Bama fans are so defensive on this- I don't and I'm sure most (ok rational people) don't blame Bama etc for this. It's a stupid DA being a fanboy and willingly admitting to the public that them being football players weighed into his decision. That's what makes it cloudy.
I think most of us assumed the DA reviewed facts and determined was a law broken and can I prove it in court. It is pretty novel that do these kids workout in the heat played a part.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:55 am to thelawnwranglers
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you watch any of the OJ Made in America Series?
I see your point. But surely you understand the difference between trying to make up two passengers in a car and trying to make up a Colombian gang murdering someone over a drug debt.
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