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re: Tuscaloosa News editorial:"DA reasoning sows distrust in the system"

Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:54 am to
Posted by bamaqna
Member since Jun 2016
934 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:54 am to
Hardly but if thats what you wanna believe go for it lol
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:10 am to
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If that was me or someone who did not play football the DA would have carried out prosocution


The cops didn't even arrest the two none football players in the car, yet you think the players received preferential treatment? I mean they had them all on possession of weed. Why were the other two let go?
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17265 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:42 am to
Less than 1 gram of pot will never be prosecuted. 1 oz = 28 grams. There is just not enough to bother with.
I want to see the judge who would go forward with that case against 4 Poeple.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36333 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:06 pm to
I really don't care that he let Alabama players off, the legal system should be blind to things like this. His comment is just lol worthy.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17785 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:05 pm to
What I am saying is, if I got pulled over with weed of any volume and a stolen firearm in the vehicle I'm going to jail. All I want is consistency and a DA throwing his hands up and saying oh well, and then dropping the dumbest line in the history of DA's is inexcusable.

I hope Cam learned his lesson on this. Dude has a huge future if he walks the strait and narrow.
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:06 pm to
It's hard to agree with the whole 'bright future' thing when the dude most be dumb as a frickin rock
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:11 pm to
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What I am saying is, if I got pulled over with weed of any volume and a stolen firearm in the vehicle I'm going to jail.



No, not if the reason they saw the small bit of weed and gun that you purchased without knowledge of it being stolen is because they searched your vehicle illegally.

If that happened, you would have a halfway decent lawyer (I assume), he would figure this out, present it to the judge and my GUESS is that the judge would dismiss the case because he'd know his best evidence was going to get tossed out.

It's pretty simple stuff. You can say they got lucky, that's fine, but this isn't some sort of legal fooey hooey. It's pretty simple.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

What I am saying is, if I got pulled over with weed of any volume and a stolen firearm in the vehicle I'm going to jail


They went to jail - or at least the two football players went to jail.

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All I want is consistency and a DA throwing his hands up and saying oh well


Now that it has come out that there were others in the car that weren't arrested and a very small amount of pot, he almost certainly realized he had some serious problems with the case. Charges are dismissed for this reason all the time, they just don't make the news.

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dropping the dumbest line in the history of DA's is inexcusable.


You're not going to get any disagreement from me there.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

. Look at this board. Not all, but most Alabama fans since the decision came out have basically laughed heartedly at the decision and displayed symbolic uncomplimentary hand gestures laughing that nothing is going to get in their way of another title.



Yeah. Nothing was ever posted before the decision to provoke such a response either. Stay off the worldwide web you old geezer. You will never understand how it works.
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:26 pm to
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I prefer to beat teams at their best so we don't have to deal with an offseason full of bitching and what ifs?


Wait....wut?
Has this ever happened?
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2363 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:09 pm to
So let me get this straight...

a Minor in Possession of alcohol in the State of Georgia receives 40 hours of community service, a several hundred dollar fine, 6 months probation with monthly reporting to a probation officer with any violations potentially resulting in an arrest warrant, and also a Drug-Alcohol/Counseling screening costing appx $200

Vs

Possession of marijuana (not sure if it was misdemeanor or felony amount but already objectively worse of an offense in that alcohol is legal above a certain age in Georgia whereas marijuana is currently not legalized) + possession of a stolen Glock handgun gets you 20 less hours of community service, "26 hours of ride-along service with Northpoint Police Dept" (was that part a joke? They're really going to learn their lesson now), weekly urine tests, drug counseling. Okay, I'm sure they have probation conditions but..

It seems the punishment is on-par with a Minor in Possession of alcohol. This was absolutely preferential treatment. White, black, green, doesn't matter. If that's you, me, or just about anyone else carrying weed and packing heat in a parking lot in the middle of the night, 101% prosecuted. 101%. I sweat too.

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while we were all in the air conditioning


You can't beat *the* air conditioning. He is above 80 years old right? Probably one of those people that shouldn't be operating a motor vehicle at this point in time.


Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:03 pm to
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No, not if the reason they saw the small bit of weed and gun that you purchased without knowledge of it being stolen is because they searched your vehicle illegally.

Correct, but it was a legal search due to the fact that the cop swore and affidavit that he detected a strong odor of marijuana and saw a gun on someone's lap. Gun + weed = felony.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30198 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

No, not if the reason they saw the small bit of weed and gun that you purchased without knowledge of it being stolen is because they searched your vehicle illegally.

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Correct, but it was a legal search due to the fact that the cop swore and affidavit that he detected a strong odor of marijuana and saw a gun on someone's lap. Gun + weed = felony.
I wonder if the cop smelled a strong odor of weed on the other two cats in the car that didn't get cuffed 'n stuffed?

Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

a Minor in Possession of alcohol in the State of Georgia receives 40 hours of community service, a several hundred dollar fine, 6 months probation with monthly reporting to a probation officer with any violations potentially resulting in an arrest warrant, and also a Drug-Alcohol/Counseling screening costing appx $200


Where the hell does this happen. I got arrested for minor in possession of alcohol back in 1993 in Alabama and went to court and paid a $200 fine. I didn't have to do all that crap.

Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73474 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:29 pm to
Many counties have a diversionary system now so that minors have the opportunity to avoid having a misdemeanor on their record.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:36 pm to
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I wonder if the cop smelled a strong odor of weed on the other two cats in the car that didn't get cuffed 'n stuffed?

That has nothing to do with whether or not it was a legal search. the cop swore he smelled the weed. That's all he needs to conduct a lawful search.

That he found weed and guns means that a felony was being committed. It doesn't matter how much weed in Louisiana, it can just be the resin in your bowl, and it counts as possession of a dangerous controlled substance.

A ridiculous as that may be, it is still the law. And when these laws were being pushed down our throats, we were all told, "We are a nation of laws, don't do the crime if you can't do the time."

It's clear that a felony was committed.

But it's all about the air-conditioning.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Many counties have a diversionary system now so that minors have the opportunity to avoid having a misdemeanor on their record.


So that is voluntary?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:40 pm to
It's over, man. No charges. Move forward.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:47 pm to
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It's over, man. No charges. Move forward.

Where was that when your boy said:

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No, not if the reason they saw the small bit of weed and gun that you purchased without knowledge of it being stolen is because they searched your vehicle illegally.


...?

I didn't really think those boys were going to get in any serious trouble, but I was looking forward to see where the acquittal was going to come from. But when the DA opened his mouth and air-conditioning came out, I 'd.

Look, I resented getting into trouble that football players would've gotten out of when I was in school. It's not just about Alabama.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73474 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 4:14 pm to
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So that is voluntary?


Sort of. Since it is for minors, the parents technically get to decide whether their kids participate or not.
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