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re: Todd Berry says rule change proposal was all about safety

Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:54 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:54 am to
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but on defense the only way is if you call timeout.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:54 am to
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Then have an open meeting, with folks from both sides.


https://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/14/3623021/dukes-david-cutcliffe-says-coaches.html#storylink=cpy

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Cutcliffe was most concerned with the fact that he and every other coach he has spoken with (he estimated it was between 12-15 just today, from both coasts and most conferences) had no idea this proposal was coming.

"We felt blindsided by this," Cutcliffe said. "I had heard it before, obviously, but I had no idea it was on the table. We did not discuss this in the (FBS) head coaches’ meeting at the AFCA (American Football Coaches Association) convention in Indianapolis. It was not even on the agenda.


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There would not be a mandatory 10-second wait to snap the ball in the last two minutes of each half—a fact Cutcliffe pointed out as running against the alleged idea of safety.

"If it’s player safety, I don’t understand why it would be okay to change the rhythm of the game in the two-minute period," he said.


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Still, what bothers Cutcliffe most is the way this proposal came out of nowhere, a suggestion handed down from a 12-person football rules committee that was not discussed in a room full of FBS coaches at the annual convention.

"We talked abut everything imaginable that was on the agenda or around the corner or really a great need as we move forward with the game, to try to protect the game and the players of the game and the professionals, and this was never brought up," Cutcliffe said. None of us knew this was on the docket.

"You would think if this was something that was going to be moved to a vote by the football rules committee that directly affects every one of us in the coaching profession that it would have been put on the docket."
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:55 am to
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This is about player safety. I had a player, an asthmatic kid, I couldn't get the kid out." -- Todd Berry


Don't recruit asthmatic kids.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:55 am to
Dr. Benson testified before congress that fatigue leads to injuries dummy, wheres your doctorate in neurology ?

Dr. Barn, the red neck hick.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:59 am to
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I had a player, an asthmatic kid, I couldn't get the kid out."


So the kid didn't have the mind to drop down and allow trainers to come and retrieve him?

Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:59 am to
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He even asked for a rule that would keep teams from faking injuries and this rule should do it.


No, he didn't.
Posted by finestfirst79
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:01 pm to
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Don't recruit asthmatic kids.


I thought my sarcasm was obvious.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:01 pm to
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So the kid didn't have the mind to drop down and allow trainers to come and retrieve him?


No kidding. If a player hurts his ankle, he goes down adn the trainers come see him. If you can't breathe, you do the same.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:02 pm to
It was
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:02 pm to
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"On offense you can always have a tired player throw up his hand and sub out, but on defense the only way is if you call timeout.


so was todd leaving his asmatic players in the game or burning his TOs to get them out?...

this justification is beyond laughable.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:07 pm to
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this justification is beyond laughable.


You didnt know it was against the rules for the D to sub?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:23 pm to
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Dr. Benson testified before congress that fatigue leads to injuries dummy, wheres your doctorate in neurology ?


then maybe saban should have his players in better shape
Posted by Schwaaz
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:26 pm to
It's called cult delusion.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:30 pm to
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It's called cult delusion.


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Alabama Fan


ha
Posted by cyogi
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:39 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:50 pm to
For those who don't think that the Defense should be given an opportunity to sub and/or line up: Do you think it is ok in baseball for a pitcher to throw a pitch before the batter is in the batter's box? This is essentially what the HUNH tries to do to Defenses.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:53 pm to
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Do you think it is ok in baseball for a pitcher to throw a pitch before the batter is in the batter's box? This is essentially what the HUNH tries to do to Defenses.
no its not, because your belief of this statement

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For those who don't think that the Defense should be given an opportunity to sub and/or line up


is highly flawed and your comparison is not similar either
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:54 pm to
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For those who don't think that the Defense should be given an opportunity to sub and/or line up: Do you think it is ok in baseball for a pitcher to throw a pitch before the batter is in the batter's box? This is essentially what the HUNH tries to do to Defenses.


Then shouldn't the rule be implemented for the whole game? What you guys are saying is it's ok for an offense to do this for the final 2 minutes of each half but not for the rest of the game. So it should be ok for a pitcher to throw a pitch before the batter gets into the box in only the 9th inning right?


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For those who don't think that the Defense should be given an opportunity to sub and/or line up


Also, as was stated above, this is wrong. The defense does have the opportunity to sub between each snap, they just don't have the ability because the players are too slow. If you want to sub during the HUNH then the players need to be sprinting on and off the field rather than jogging like they always do.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:58 pm to
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Then shouldn't the rule be implemented for the whole game? What you guys are saying is it's ok for an offense to do this for the final 2 minutes of each half but not for the rest of the game. So it should be ok for a pitcher to throw a pitch before the batter gets into the box in only the 9th inning right?


I didn't say anything about when the rule should be implemented, but, yes, I do think it should be implemented for the whole game.
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:00 pm to
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your comparison is not similar either


It's actually a pretty good comparison if you will think about it objectively.
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