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re: Todd Berry says rule change proposal was all about safety

Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:07 am to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:07 am to
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where you stand on this debate shouldn't be what team you pull for, b/c lord knows how many times a program changes offensive philosphies over the course of a 5 to 10 year span.

it should scare ANYONE who is a fan of college football that people are attempting to fundamentally change how the game is played in the name of player safety with absolutely ZERO evidence to back it up.... it's an extremely slippery slope that should worry all fans.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:07 am to
If it's true that an increased number of plays = increased number of injuries and all we are concerned about is player safety.....why have the game at all?
Posted by tkane311
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:07 am to
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you got links to Calhoun and Berry against the HUNH before last week?


I don't. I don't think they were. I think they went all fan-girl over Saban and Lord Lardass and would have left that meeting advocating cannibalism and necrophelia if that is what Lord Farquad and Davy Hogan pitched to them.
Posted by northalabamacracker
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:11 am to
If we continue to allow something as unsafe as the reckless and dangerous HUNH, we migjt as well give the kids weapons on the field and allow them to maim each other that way instead of the inhumane toll the HUNH will inflict on them.
Posted by elposter
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:12 am to
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people are attempting to fundamentally change how the game is played


That's a little over the top don't you think? What percentage of snaps would have been affected had this change been in place last year?

I don't like the rule that much, but it's not going to impact the pace of play, even for HUNH teams. Basically, it may result in more defensive substitutions (and frankly how much more it would allow is debatable, 10 second from end of last play isn't really a lot of time - thus the fact that even HUNH don't run the next play in that short a time period). Hardly a fundamental change in how the game is played. Moving the kickoff up 5 yards a couple of years ago likely had more actual impact to the game than this rule would ever have. Heard a lot less opposition to it though.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 11:17 am
Posted by minor
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:14 am to
Next thing you know, players will be all strung out on deer antler spray and killing people.
Posted by tkane311
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:14 am to
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If we continue to allow something as unsafe as the reckless and dangerous HUNH, we migjt as well give the kids weapons on the field and allow them to maim each other that way instead of the inhumane toll the HUNH will inflict on them.


Exactly. You remember the opening scene in that Damon Wayons/Bruce Willis movie, The Last Boy Scout where that dude is returning the kick off and pulls out a gun and starts shooting would be tacklers? That basically is just like the HUNH.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 11:15 am
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:16 am to
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I'm obviously trying to discuss this with a bunch of child abusers.


RA'd for personal attacks.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:17 am to
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If we continue to allow something as unsafe as the reckless and dangerous HUNH, we migjt as well give the kids weapons on the field and allow them to maim each other that way instead of the inhumane toll the HUNH will inflict on them.


Reefer Madness. Where are your facts?

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I don't like the rule that much, but it's not going to impact the pace of play, even for HUNH teams. Basically, it may result in more defensive substitutions.


Which changes how modern football is played.
Posted by Killean
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:18 am to
Do you have a study to show that Auburn fans aren't child abusers?


Because I'm pretty sure based on local crime statistics in Alabama they are.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:18 am to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:19 am to
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Do you have a study to show that Auburn fans aren't child abusers?


Because I'm pretty sure based on local crime statistics in Alabama they are.


burden of proof is on the accuser.

Link?
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:19 am to
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it should scare ANYONE who is a fan of college football that people are attempting to fundamentally change how the game is played in the name of player safety with absolutely ZERO evidence to back it up.... it's an extremely slippery slope that should worry all fans.
Really, how dramatic can you be? They have passed dozens of rules in favour of the offense to the point where you can barely tackle or give the qb a love tap, and you morons think defensive substitutions are going to fundamentally change the game? It may seem that way if you know nothing about football or have only been watching since 2008.
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:19 am to
He accused that guy of making a personal attack about calling you guys child abusers. He needs to provide proof that you aren't.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:20 am to
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You remember the opening scene in that Damon Wayons/Bruce Willis movie, The Last Boy Scout where that dude is returning the kick off and pulls out a gun and starts shooting would be tacklers? That basically is just like the HUNH.


Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:20 am to
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That's a little over the top don't you think? What percentage of snaps would have been affected had this change been in place last year?

I don't believe it was that many for SEC teams. I know Brandon Marcello said that Auburn would have only been flagged twice in the NC game.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:20 am to
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you morons think defensive substitutions are going to fundamentally change the game?


Penalizing a team for snapping the ball, yes it does
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:22 am to
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Penalizing a team for snapping the ball, yes it does
because there are no rules about how the ball is snapped.
Posted by lowspark12
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:22 am to
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. Moving the kickoff up 5 yards a couple of years ago likely had more actual impact to the game than this rule would ever have. Heard a lot less opposition to it though.


this affected, what... 10 to 14 plays a game depending on who times a team scored?

the 10 second rule has the potential to affect every play from scrimmage... whether a team actually snapped a ball or not, the threat of doing so limited a defenses ability to sub... that will be gone now.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by StopRobot
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:22 am to
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Which changes how modern football is played.


and which was changed when unlimited substitutions were first allowed in 1964.
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