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re: The State Schools vs. the non-State schools in the SEC.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 6:09 pm to TexAgChill
Posted on 6/22/15 at 6:09 pm to TexAgChill
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I'm pretty sure Texas A&M and Vanderbilt don't need the taxpayers money.
Legit question: Doesn't a huge portion of the tamu endowment come from the Texas Rail Road Commission? A guy I know who is an alumnus said that there is some state reg that requires a percentage of all money flowing through the RR Comission (I.e. The oil money flowing through the state's coffers) to go straight to funding the school.
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:03 pm to logjamming
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Legit question: Doesn't a huge portion of the tamu endowment come from the Texas Rail Road Commission? A guy I know who is an alumnus said that there is some state reg that requires a percentage of all money flowing through the RR Comission (I.e. The oil money flowing through the state's coffers) to go straight to funding the school.
Kind of.
The Texas Constitution of 1876 set aside land for the University system to sell off (Texas retained all unsold property in the state when entering the union instead of the Feds grabbing it.) Instead, oil was discovered on the land.
The PUF is funded from oil leases on around 2 million acres, mostly in West Texas. The Texas Railroad Commission sets production levels. It no longer regulates rail roads or their rates.
Texas gets 2/3rds and we get 1/3rd.
The importance of the PUF can be overstated though, as it has to fund entire systems, not just the two main campuses.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:25 pm to Farmer1906
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I would say Ole Miss is the flagship. They were established first, they're bigger, & they have a bigger endowment. Neither are in the top 50 in research so I don't know who spends more there.
Ummmmm. State is the largest school. USM is second. Ole Miss last year was the 3rd largest in Mississippi. Mississippi College was the first school founded in Mississippi. So by your criteria of size, age and endowment then MC would be the flagship university of Mississippi, Vandy would be the flagship of Tennessee and ULaLa would be flagship of Louisiana
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:14 pm to TigerBait1127
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Posted by TigerBait1127 on 6/22/15 at 6:41 am to Farmer1906 Living in Texas, Texas is the flagship
After you incorrectly said the above, then you said:
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I'm not saying that Texas A&M or even the state of Texas claims there is only 1 flagship.
And then you said the following after you so eloquently provided us a link to the definition of the word "flagship" in an attempt to incorrectly prove that states can only have one flagship school.
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I've already stated that the definition of flagship doesn't fit states like Texas, Cali, or Florida.
I'm still not sure how you lumped Florida in the group. Indiana would be a better example.
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Well the quote you listed on wiki does have a citation that follows it, but it doesn't contain the word flagship once...
Who really knows what you are trying to say here. A citation in the Wiki page doesn't contain the word "flagship." Huh? You've been provided more than enough links to show that you don't know what the hell you were talking about in your piss poor attempt to talk smack. Next time base your smack off of facts, not your perception.
Maybe you just need to say that you were mistaken or incorrect and move on. But to keep being belligerent about a known fact is tantamount to saying the world is flat.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:35 pm to The Balinese Club
You realize that the first quote doesn't contradict the second, unless you think I speak for entirety of Texas.
Not to mention that under the definition of a flagship, Texas is the top dog in this state (but hey, Texas is special so they try to change the definition)
Which also doesn't contradict the quote you think it does. And the term flagship is pretty self explanatory.
Guess thinking is hard for non flagship grads.
Not to mention that under the definition of a flagship, Texas is the top dog in this state (but hey, Texas is special so they try to change the definition)
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And then you said the following after you so eloquently provided us a link to the definition of the word "flagship" in an attempt to incorrectly prove that states can only have one flagship school.
Which also doesn't contradict the quote you think it does. And the term flagship is pretty self explanatory.
Guess thinking is hard for non flagship grads.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:36 pm to TigerBait1127
Nevermind. It isn't worth it.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:37 pm to The Balinese Club
And yet you keep responding...
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:39 pm to The Balinese Club
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Nevermind. It isn't worth it.
There you go. Aggies are too easy. Call or imply that they're little brothers in their state, and they lose their minds.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:54 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:55 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:55 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:56 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:58 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:00 pm to Farmer1906
Triggered?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:07 pm to The Balinese Club
The term "flagship" you're referring to is a construct of the Texas Legislature, and refers to funding. Really, that's all it means -- more money.
Are you sure you want to go this route? The same Texas Constitution that made A&M a branch of The University of Texas?
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The University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University are flagship universities of the state of Texas. Both were established by the Texas Constitution
Are you sure you want to go this route? The same Texas Constitution that made A&M a branch of The University of Texas?
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Sec. 13. AGRICULTURAL AND MECHANICAL COLLEGE. The Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas, established by an Act of the Legislature passed April 17th, 1871, located in the county of Brazos, is hereby made, and constituted a Branch of the University of Texas
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:11 pm to texashorn
Here's more from the Texas Constitution:
1. 1858 UT 2. 1871 A&M
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set apart and appropriated to the establishment of the University of Texas, by an Act of the Legislature of February 11, 1858, entitled, "An Act to establish the University of Texas,"
1. 1858 UT 2. 1871 A&M
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:29 pm to texashorn
So what the hell took you so long to open your doors?
Christ almighty the obsession by longhorns is reaching a fever pitch these days.
Christ almighty the obsession by longhorns is reaching a fever pitch these days.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:32 pm to p_bubel
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So what the hell took you so long to open your doors?
Actually, I can answer that. The State of Texas didn't have much money at all, until oil. Not relatively.
But the federal Morrill Land-Grant Acts allowed agriculturally oriented schools to receive federal aid, which in some cases allowed schools (like Texas A&M) to open its doors before the state university, because of the federal funding.
Two examples of ag schools opening before the state schools because of the federal Morrill funds are Colorado A&M (State), which opened before UC-Boulder, and Kansas A&M (State), which opened two years before the University of Kansas in Lawrence.
Surely you don't think Colo. St. and K-St are "the" Colorado and Kansas schools?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:39 pm to texashorn
So you're saying Texas State = Texas A&M?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:40 pm to p_bubel
quote:I know. It's pretty embarrassing
the obsession by longhorns is reaching a fever pitch these days.
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