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re: The State Schools vs. the non-State schools in the SEC.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:53 am to TigerBait1127
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:53 am to TigerBait1127
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Yet Texas is on this list and not the Aggies
The chart is random, and not some definitive pick of flagships. Both Virginia and Virginia Tech are on there.
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:08 am to Mister Tee
Vandy is the only private school in the league
Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:26 pm to Scoreboard
I realize that. But you have to admit...when it comes to state politics...the most popular school in the state wins every single time. During the depression, things got difficult, and Bama pushed the State Legislators to get ALL educational funds in the state if things really got bad...and they didn't care if a single school other than 'Bama existed as a result (at the time). They didn't care about anyone as long as their Flagship survived.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:55 pm to Mister Tee
quote:And?
I realize that. But you have to admit...when it comes to state politics...the most popular school in the state wins every single time. During the depression, things got difficult, and Bama pushed the State Legislators to get ALL educational funds in the state if things really got bad...and they didn't care if a single school other than 'Bama existed as a result (at the time). They didn't care about anyone as long as their Flagship survived.
Why should Alabama care about any other program but their own? Why shouldnt' they fight for their own survival? What the hell prevented any other Alabama education system from pushing the State Legislators for funding in the midst of a national depression?
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:05 pm to cardboardboxer
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The chart is random, and not some definitive pick of flagships. Both Virginia and Virginia Tech are on there.
I think you need to look at the chart again. VT stands for Vermont
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:06 pm to The Balinese Club
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Whay you really meant to say is that website didn't say what you really thought it said.
Not at all actually. You linked a completely different website and article
This was the title from that website:
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2014-15 Tuition and Fees at Flagship Universities and Five-Year Percentage Change
And I said exactly what I meant. The definition of flagship in regards to a state means there can only be 1. From Webster:
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: the ship that carries the commander of a group of ships
: the best, largest, or most important one of a group of things (such as products, stores, etc.)
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:24 pm to RT1941
Because of the History.
The Depression is just one mistake that the University of Alabama has made. Segregation was another (stop hanging people from trees...at least we only do that with toilet paper), and stop controlling other schools within your own state as political hostages (UAB) on a continuous basis and worry about yourselves and you will be ok.
The Depression is just one mistake that the University of Alabama has made. Segregation was another (stop hanging people from trees...at least we only do that with toilet paper), and stop controlling other schools within your own state as political hostages (UAB) on a continuous basis and worry about yourselves and you will be ok.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:53 pm to TigerBait1127
Then why does our Legislature specifically state that Texas has two flagship universities? Why does California spefucally state that they have five?
That definition doesn't mean what you think it means when it comes to higher education.
You are not too bright if you continue to argue the opposite of what is known to be proven true when presented with facts and a citation of proof.
I'm curious, did you actually graduate from college? If so, where?
That definition doesn't mean what you think it means when it comes to higher education.
You are not too bright if you continue to argue the opposite of what is known to be proven true when presented with facts and a citation of proof.
I'm curious, did you actually graduate from college? If so, where?
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:07 pm to TigerBait1127
Just to help you dig that hole a little deeper...
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The University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University are flagship universities of the state of Texas. Both were established by the Texas Constitution and hold stakes in the Permanent University Fund.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:11 pm to The Balinese Club
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Then why does our Legislature specifically state that Texas has two flagship universities? Why does California spefucally state that they have five?
That was my point. The term doesn't fit states like Texas and California. I couldn't have stated it any clearer. Just because Texas thinks the world revolves around them, doesn't mean it changes the actual definition or origins of the word flagship.
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That definition doesn't mean what you think it means when it comes to higher education.
No, the definition is changed when it comes to higher education to appease their population.
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You are not too bright if you continue to argue the opposite of what is known to be proven true when presented with facts and a citation of proof.
I can only put my thoughts into words, I can't comprehend them for you too
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I'm curious, did you actually graduate from college? If so, where?
I have 2 degrees, both from LSU. I'm loving the insults though, keep them coming. Triggered
Some future advice: if you're going to try and insult someone, proofread your work.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:39 pm to The Balinese Club
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Then why does our Legislature specifically state that Texas has two flagship universities?
Also, do you have a link to that?
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You are not too bright if you continue to argue the opposite of what is known to be proven true when presented with facts and a citation of proof.
Well the quote you listed on wiki does have a citation that follows it, but it doesn't contain the word flagship once...
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:56 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:03 pm to Farmer1906
I just don't know what further proof he needs to understand that there are two flagships in Texas. In his mind the world must still be flat. I guess those two degrees from LSU didn't help much.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:12 pm to Farmer1906
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:15 pm to The Balinese Club
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just don't know what further proof he needs to understand that there are two flagships in Texas
Jesus you're dense
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:17 pm to TigerBait1127
Why are you laughing? You've been proven wrong many times over.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:20 pm to TigerBait1127
Dense? You are an idiot to be offered proof many times over that you belligerently reject because it doesn't suit you.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:26 pm to The Balinese Club
Your proof offers nothing to combat my argument.
I'm not saying that Texas A&M or even the state of Texas claims there is only 1 flagship. Not to mention there is a difference between a system's flagship and a state's flagship. I've already stated that the definition of flagship doesn't fit states like Texas, Cali, or Florida.
Do I need to type that again?
Also, I asked for a citation to the Texas law claiming more than 1 flagship school. You cited Wikipedia which cited an article that didn't contain the word flagship. Triggered
I'm not saying that Texas A&M or even the state of Texas claims there is only 1 flagship. Not to mention there is a difference between a system's flagship and a state's flagship. I've already stated that the definition of flagship doesn't fit states like Texas, Cali, or Florida.
Do I need to type that again?
Also, I asked for a citation to the Texas law claiming more than 1 flagship school. You cited Wikipedia
which cited an article that didn't contain the word flagship. TriggeredThis post was edited on 6/22/15 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:35 pm to TigerBait1127
Document shared with Texas Senate
Not sure for what you're looking, but you seem to be arguing with yourself?
From the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board -- the governing body for higher Ed in Texas:
THECB
Not sure for what you're looking, but you seem to be arguing with yourself?
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There has long been discussion about how Texas might create more top-quality, world- class academic research universities to complement the three existing ones – Rice, Texas A&M, and UT Austin. Texas needs to strengthen its two existing flagship public universities to make them more competitive with the nation’s best institutions.
From the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board -- the governing body for higher Ed in Texas:
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Ensure the existing flagships are competitively funded
THECB
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:40 pm to TigerBait1127
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I've already stated that the definition of flagship doesn't fit states like Texas, Cali, or Florida.
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