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re: The State Schools vs. the non-State schools in the SEC.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 9:33 am to Mister Tee
Posted on 6/20/15 at 9:33 am to Mister Tee
A&M, Auburn, and State are state schools.
State even has it in their fricking name.
You're dumb.
State even has it in their fricking name.
You're dumb.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 9:45 am to Mister Tee
Threads like this are stupid... you play the hand you're dealt... Just bc schools like AU, Vandy, A&M, etc arent the "name" school doesn't mean they don't have advantages.
This post was edited on 6/20/15 at 9:46 am
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:01 am to lowspark12
FSU the last few years is a great example of that.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:12 am to scrooster
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Each state's Flagship University ....
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Alabama
LSU
Ole Miss
Kentucky
South Carolina
Missouri
Arkansas
Being a Flagship University has its advantages - these days more than in the past - because of the importance of status to today's youths.
Texas has 2 flagship's smart guy, but if we were only to pick one, I wonder who it would be.
The College Board, for example, defines flagship universities as the best-known institutions in the state, noting that they were generally the first to be established and are frequently the largest and most selective, as well as the most research-intensive public universities.
best-known in the state - I don't think there is a person alive in Texas that doesn't know either, but I'll let tu have this one.
first to be established - 1876(A&M) comes before 1883
largest - ~58K(A&M) > ~51k
most selective - tu has the edge
most research-intensive public universities - According to our chancellor "I think in research, our competition's not in Texas anymore. There's just nobody who can stay in the same room," said Sharp. "They're all nice people, but they ain't in our class. We just dominate." A&M was the only school in Texas to break the top 20.
3>2
Thanks and Gig Em
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:27 am to DawgsLife
The HOPE used to allow kids in West Central Georgia from Atlanta, Newnan and Columbus (and everywhere in between) to go to Auburn for free as well if students maintained a 3.00 GPA and proved that they served their community along the way. They stopped doing that in 1999 or 2000.
I apologize for the confusion. Times change I guess.
That was pretty good incentive though, you have to admit.
I apologize for the confusion. Times change I guess.
That was pretty good incentive though, you have to admit.
This post was edited on 6/20/15 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:38 am to Mister Tee
13 against 1 hardly seems like a fair premise for comparison. Vandy struggles to beat any of us 1 on 1 as it is...why pile on 12 more OP?
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:39 am to Mister Tee
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The HOPE used to allow kids in West Central Georgia from Atlanta, Newnan and Columbus (and everywhere in between) to go to Auburn for free as well if students maintained a 3.00 GPA and proved that they served their community along the way. They stopped doing that in 1999 or 2000.
That's news to me. Thanks for the clarification! I had no idea they did that. I find it more than a little odd. Not saying you are not being truthful, because you are in a MUCH better position to know than I am. To clarify further (And so I can learn something) you lost the Hope because Georgia was a public school and (at the time) did not offer your chosen major? (Engineering) that does make a certain amount of sense when i think about it.
Thanks!
I'm glad everything worked out for you, and you were happy at Auburn.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:40 am to Mister Tee
.....Except Texas' suppposed "flagship" isn't in the SEC, and A&M is. Not really fair to compare A&M to Auburn, MSU, Vandy....they are at much more of a disadvantage than we are.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:44 am to texasaggie08
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.....Except Texas' suppposed "flagship" isn't in the SEC, and A&M is. Not really fair to compare A&M to Auburn, MSU, Vandy....they are at much more of a disadvantage than we are.
This is true. Being a "LITTLE BROTHER LOL" school is only really a slight disadvantage when you have THE U of [STATE] school in the SEC too. Even then, I'm not sure how much of a disadvantage it really is. Auburn kicks a lot of people's asses in this conference, even with the Gumps doing their gumping. Y'all are posting in a troll thread.
eta: Louisiana State A&M would not be at a disadvantage if THE University of Louisiana at Lafayette joined the SEC, for example.
This post was edited on 6/20/15 at 10:47 am
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:47 am to texasaggie08
Also, throw LSU in there....University of Louisiana - Lafayette is to Louisiana what University of Mississippi is to MS. Thus, LSU = MSU.
edit- poster above is making my same point
edit- poster above is making my same point
This post was edited on 6/20/15 at 10:48 am
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:50 am to texasaggie08
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poster above
Have some fricking respect
Posted on 6/20/15 at 11:07 am to TexAgChill
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I'm pretty sure Texas A&M and Vanderbilt don't need the taxpayers money.
Not to gloat but there are plenty of universities in the SEC that could survive and even thrive without state funding.
Hell, little ol' South Carolina with its less than $1 billion endowment receives less than 10% of its funding from state appropriations.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 11:11 am to DawgsLife
You are correct. The HOPE is, essentially, a lottery program so it faced a whole lot of controversy when it first began (in an already ultra-conservative state). Georgia is just a blessed state right now as far as how much money the state generates.
But, getting back to your statement...they (HOPE scholarship program) offered it, and all of a sudden stopped it when it got too big for them to handle...and then Georgia law/legislation took over and everything changed.
But, getting back to your statement...they (HOPE scholarship program) offered it, and all of a sudden stopped it when it got too big for them to handle...and then Georgia law/legislation took over and everything changed.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 11:15 am to East Coast Band
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thought all schools were non-state schools, except Mississippi State and Louisiana State.
And even with those, LSU doesn't really use the word "State".
therefore, there is only one "State " school in the SEC, hence why most of us call State "State".
Wow
Posted on 6/20/15 at 12:05 pm to The Balinese Club
Vanderbilt does more than just keep the sec prom freedom information act, they also win baseball natty a and keep ole miss from SECCG.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 12:12 pm to wmr
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Or, you could be a well-rounded university with liberal arts, law, ag, engineering and everything.
I'm just talking shite. I agree. My education after leaving Bama was completely agricultural, so my line was more about the rustlez than any real slight.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 12:18 pm to DannyB
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You do fully realize that Auburn is funded by the state just like Alabama is, I hope. Auburn is not a private university. Neither is Miss St. or A&M.
Haven't read all the threads, but do those schools get more funding than the flagship schools. I know Mizzou gets the most money in this state. One of the deals that SMS(Southwest Missouri State) had to make for the name change to Missouri State was that they couldn't have a medical school and maybe some other things to compete with Mizzou for funding and students, flagship status, etc. Maybe more people from Missouri can tell more or correct me on that issue.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 1:24 pm to Farmer1906
LINK
According to wiki link posted I noticed they have State as the tFlagship school of Mississippi
According to wiki link posted I noticed they have State as the tFlagship school of Mississippi
This post was edited on 6/20/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 6/20/15 at 1:36 pm to Mister Tee
How in the hell do you figure Mississippi State is the non-state school but Ole Miss isn't? It's literally the opposite
This post was edited on 6/20/15 at 1:37 pm
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