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re: The poor officiating of the Ark-USC game (for the record)
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:52 am to Jon Ham
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:52 am to Jon Ham
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RA me.
I think you are having a hard enough time right now as it is. Plus, I don't RA someone for being butthurt otherwise I'd be one RAing mofo.
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Oh, and thanks for coming back to the thread. I thought you were done. You always have a place in my threads, even if we take some jabs back and forth.
It's almost 5 in the morning. All the other boards are dead.
If I was you I'd be upset at the douche that started the dynasty thread after yall beat USC the first time. You NEVER do that shite in baseball. It's a damn jinx. I'm going to try and find it and link it. I even told the guy that he jinxed the Razorbacks and that all Arky fans should be pissed at the guy.
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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:53 am to Jon Ham
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Jon Ham
Serious question:
How old are you?
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:54 am to Jon Ham
By the way Ham, actually good work. Thanks for putting all that together. However, nothing and especially not reason, logic, and indisputable evidence will ever be translatable to a Rantard.
They just drop in to say Arky gonna Arky and be miserable counts.
The guy that said the Ump basically stole an epic game away from both clubs was spot on. If he could've just done his job this game was down to the wire anyway, a true playoff atmosphere. Very sad day for both clubs, all you ask for is consistency and fairness... what a ref or ump is trained to do, but too often they refuse to do the job they are paid to do.
Maybe Vegas bets pay out a lot better than a CWS game?
They just drop in to say Arky gonna Arky and be miserable counts.
The guy that said the Ump basically stole an epic game away from both clubs was spot on. If he could've just done his job this game was down to the wire anyway, a true playoff atmosphere. Very sad day for both clubs, all you ask for is consistency and fairness... what a ref or ump is trained to do, but too often they refuse to do the job they are paid to do.
Maybe Vegas bets pay out a lot better than a CWS game?
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:56 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
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Serious question:
How old are you?
Guess, then I'll tell you.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:02 am to CtotheVrzrbck
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By the way Ham, actually good work.
Thanks, I just put together the information and screen caps found by others into one post.
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The guy that said the Ump basically stole an epic game away from both clubs was spot on. If he could've just done his job this game was down to the wire anyway, a true playoff atmosphere. Very sad day for both clubs, all you ask for is consistency and fairness... what a ref or ump is trained to do, but too often they refuse to do the job they are paid to do.
Yup. I respect the quality of the USC team and would have been fine losing a fair game to them. They definitely deserve to be where they are, but like you said, it's unfortunate this game went down like it did. Takes away from them as well as us.
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Maybe Vegas bets pay out a lot better than a CWS game?
I wouldn't be surprised...
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:11 am to Jon Ham
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Guess, then I'll tell you.
You could honestly be any age, but it seems that you haven't been a fan of baseball for too long.
IF you HAVE been a baseball fan all of your life then I would guess that you are young. A teenager perhaps?
...and after reading all of the threads that your own fans started that jinxed you guys, I'm not going to rub salt in the wound. Besides, all of the epic failures were already bumped.
It doesn't matter the amount of pictures, opinions, and screen caps you post in this thread, you are still arguing balls and strikes. That is possibly the lamest complaint to fall back on in all of the sporting world. In other words, there is no "rationally thought out" argument involving complaints about individual pitches being balls or strikes. This is why I think you are either young or just started watching baseball recently. A long time baseball fan wouldn't start a thread like this.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:17 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
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You could honestly be any age, but it seems that you haven't been a fan of baseball for too long.
I'm 25. I realize I act like I'm 13 sometimes on here. My personality/maturity fluctuates according to the thread/situation.
I've watched and played a good amount of baseball in my time.
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you are still arguing balls and strikes.
Again, I'm not arguing anything. Just made the thread so everyone can see the truth.
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there is no "rationally thought out" argument involving complaints about individual pitches being balls or strikes.
That's false. See the OP.
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A long time baseball fan wouldn't start a thread like this.
I'm glad I now know that you're the go-to guy for determining what long time baseball fans do and don't do.
If this had happened to LSU, TD would have crashed with all the "long time baseball fans" making threads like this one.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:19 am to Jon Ham
Ok, I'm off to bed. Got some golf to play tomorrow. 
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 5:20 am
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:20 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
I like how LSU fans just pop in and laugh or make some stupid comment about arguing balls and strikes.
Could you imagine Tiger Rant if this was LSU instead of Arkansas with these same calls?
I'm not sure this site/TD would even be back up by now.
To have such a crucial game, on national TV, have such a piss poor umpired game like that is a complete and total joke and exactly why I can never get that into College Baseball compared to the pro's.
Maybe the umps need to make more money/train more, or whoever picks the umps needs to be fired idk, hell borrow a couple of MLB umps for a few weekends and tell them to widen the zone to college standards.
This ump missed 20+ pitches, and probably 15 of them were with Arkansas pitching.
It just sucks to have such a great game with 2 great teams get totally shite on by Costello.
greg swindell ?@GregSwindell
They need to take a long look at this game and the Kzone. Home plate ump has missed 20 at least
Retweeted by Kendall Rogers
Kendall Rogers ?@KendallRogersPG
I would agree with my colleague @aaronfitt. The umpire is flat out terrible, but don't think there's a "Fix" in like some are claiming. #CWS
Kendall Rogers ?@KendallRogersPG
This home plate umpire is simply brutal … that strike three call was clearly outside…..
Kendall Rogers ?@KendallRogersPG
#Arkansas reliever Barrett Astin walks in a run with two outs … that last pitch, according to ESPN K-Zone, was a strike. Brutal. #CWS
You've got Aaron Fitt and Kendall Rogers blasting this ump left and right, 2 of the most respected and knowledgeable guys you will find for College Baseball so don't just act like it's Arkansas fans pissed off. It was a joke of a job by that umpire.
Could you imagine Tiger Rant if this was LSU instead of Arkansas with these same calls?
I'm not sure this site/TD would even be back up by now.
To have such a crucial game, on national TV, have such a piss poor umpired game like that is a complete and total joke and exactly why I can never get that into College Baseball compared to the pro's.
Maybe the umps need to make more money/train more, or whoever picks the umps needs to be fired idk, hell borrow a couple of MLB umps for a few weekends and tell them to widen the zone to college standards.
This ump missed 20+ pitches, and probably 15 of them were with Arkansas pitching.
It just sucks to have such a great game with 2 great teams get totally shite on by Costello.
greg swindell ?@GregSwindell
They need to take a long look at this game and the Kzone. Home plate ump has missed 20 at least
Retweeted by Kendall Rogers
Kendall Rogers ?@KendallRogersPG
I would agree with my colleague @aaronfitt. The umpire is flat out terrible, but don't think there's a "Fix" in like some are claiming. #CWS
Kendall Rogers ?@KendallRogersPG
This home plate umpire is simply brutal … that strike three call was clearly outside…..
Kendall Rogers ?@KendallRogersPG
#Arkansas reliever Barrett Astin walks in a run with two outs … that last pitch, according to ESPN K-Zone, was a strike. Brutal. #CWS
You've got Aaron Fitt and Kendall Rogers blasting this ump left and right, 2 of the most respected and knowledgeable guys you will find for College Baseball so don't just act like it's Arkansas fans pissed off. It was a joke of a job by that umpire.
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 5:24 am
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:24 am to UltimateHog
That ump was awful, without a doubt, Ray Charles could have called a better game.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:28 am to Jon Ham
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I'm glad I now know that you're the go-to guy for determining what long time baseball fans do and don't do.
It's a fact of the game that balls and strikes are determined by an imperfect machine: a human. It's why people huff and haw at calls that are close and go for the other team, but after the game is over (if all you have to complain about is if "this pitch" or "that pitch" was called correctly then you really have nothing to complain about.
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If this had happened to LSU, TD would have crashed with all the "long time baseball fans" making threads like this one.
Not really. As surprising as this may seem, the rant doesn't usually have many threads complaining about balls and strikes. They complain about every thing else ad nauseum, but the B&S aren't discussed after the games
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:29 am to Jon Ham
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I'm over this game,
er...mmm....apparently not.
Especially since it will haunt you for years to come just like that whining over the allegedly bad calls versus Tebow and Florida 3 or 4 years ago.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:29 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
Tl;dr
That cream always rises boys.
That cream always rises boys.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:33 am to LsuTool
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I like how LSU fans just pop in and laugh or make some stupid comment about arguing balls and strikes
whoa....which one of these teams who would know "balls and strikes" better than the other?
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:35 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
I think the point and fact of the matter is that tonight was possibly the worst umpired game in College Baseball this season, and it happened to be the deciding game in Bracket Two of the College World Series.
That cannot happen at this stage, there is no excuse for it from the NCAA.
I'm just disappointed in what it did to a great game.
That cannot happen at this stage, there is no excuse for it from the NCAA.
I'm just disappointed in what it did to a great game.
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 5:37 am
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:36 am to UltimateHog
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You've got Aaron Fitt and Kendall Rogers blasting this ump left and right, 2 of the most respected and knowledgeable guys you will find for College Baseball so don't just act like it's Arkansas fans pissed off. It was a joke of a job by that umpire
Maybe you don't understand, but the bottom line is that if it comes down to you guys complaining about balls and strikes, then you have nothing to complain about.
Are you just mad that yall were 1 win away from the finals and choked in two consecutive games? I suspect that this is the case.
By all means please continue placing the bulk of the blame for your team's elimination on "20 pitches". Oops. I meant "15 pitches" as yall apparently benefited from 5 pitches. This thread will certainly entertain me as I have explained to my friend that doesn't post on here "When Arkansas wins they are insufferable with their holier-than thou attitude. The only thing worse than a Hog fan that is celebrating the best team in all of college is a Hog fan crying about how that super stud team getting hosed."
Sad to say that my evaluation is usually spot-on.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:41 am to Crow Pie
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whoa....which one of these teams who would know "balls and strikes" better than the other?
Neither, the umpire is supposed to know balls and strikes better than the teams.
It is what they are paid and trained to do.
But it's College Baseball, so at such a low level of baseball I guess you can't blame an ump too much.
How does one umpire for College? Get demoted from Triple/Double/Single A/Extended Spring to College? Or do you actually just apply to only ump College games?
I can only imagine the quality of umps for such a low level of baseball is pretty piss poor, so tonight shouldn't be that shocking.
Every other game at least seems to have consistency behind the plate, Costello had zero which is what made it worse.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:43 am to UltimateHog
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But it's College Baseball, so at such a low level of baseball I guess you can't blame an ump too much.
How does one umpire for College? Get demoted from Triple/Double/Single A/Extended Spring to College? Or do you actually just apply to only ump College games?
I can only imagine the quality of umps for such a low level of baseball is pretty piss poor, so tonight shouldn't be that shocking
Your trolling has hit an all-time low.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:47 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
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Maybe you don't understand, but the bottom line is that if it comes down to you guys complaining about balls and strikes
Nah, it's not just "you guys" complaining or I'd understand you thinking that.
I posted Baseball America's writer Aaron Fitt, and PG's Kendall Rogers saying the same thing.
So it's a national thing, not just an Arkansas thing.
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Are you just mad that yall were 1 win away from the finals and choked in two consecutive games? I suspect that this is the case.
Not really, I don't care for College Baseball much and while I was disappointed, it was gone in about 20 minutes.
The only baseball I watch is the Cardinals, and a few Double A Cards games as they are located in my city. I find College Baseball to really suck unless Arkansas is doing good in which case that's cool and all, but it's still just a bunch of scrubs with a few decent players on a team that weren't good enough out of HS.
Doesn't appeal a whole lot to me when Major League and Minor League baseball is so dominant here and growing up here with it.
I think the Hogs will be better next year than this year, they return almost everyone starting with Ryne Stanek and Ficociello and most of the bullpen. They can't hit much worse and made it this far so the sky is the limit next year and I wish them luck.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:51 am to UltimateHog
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I find College Baseball to really suck unless Arkansas is doing good in which case that's cool and all, but it's still just a bunch of scrubs with a few decent players on a team that weren't good enough out of HS.
Aren't you the guy that called the offenses in college baseball "gimmicky"?
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