re: the criticism on jalen hurts

Can we wait till Hurts gets to play vs a non elite defense before we start judging how much he improved between his true frosh and sophomore seasons ?

His legs prevented 100 yards of sacks the other night. Literally. FSU defense is elite. Not sure their D is getting enough credit for their performance vs Bama.

Francois had a much more impressive pass chart, but he also turned the ball over a few times, and Hurts did not... it was the difference in the game.

CNS is not going to lose the turnover battle in a game like that by cutting his QB loose. Protect the ball and play defense like savages - this is his formula, and I'd say its been a fairly successful formula.

Hurts and Bama have just now come through a stretch where they have faced four elite defenses in a row for high stakes. That has to be taken into consideration.

Word from non bammer analysts over the off-season was Hurts had greatly improved.

Once he gets a clean pocket to stand in lets see how he reads the field, and whether or not he gets the ball where it needs to go. Then we will know what sort of progress there has been.

Anyone that saw the touch on his passes the other night when he had time to set his feet could plainly see he has progressed so my money is on Hurts proving his doubters wrong.

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You mean the guy who looked better than your QB this past weekend? That guy? Yeah..

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Do I need to pull out Danny Etling's stats against the last really good defense that relentlessly pressured him?

11/24 (46%), 92 yards, 0 TD/1 INT, 69.7 Passer Rating

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I actually had a couple of bammers tell me that he could turn pro after his junior year. It took me a couple of hours to stop laughing

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Most of those retarded frickers think he's going first round. He will never sniff an NFL field in a real NFL game. He MIGHT make some teams practice squad AT BEST.

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hurts was the SEC OPOY last year....the guy has to be doing something right,right?.

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Yes he was. And yes he did. That doesnt make him a passer or ready to go early in the draft.

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true freshman, he led the bastards to the NC game, so other than suggesting that he get a damn haircut, leave him alone

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I like his hair. Why you hatin'?

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He threw for less than 100 yds last week brothuh

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On 18 throws, 3 of which were throw aways. 1 was an on the money sideline throw that Ridley got knocked out of bounds mid-air. 1 was a throw to the corner of the end zone that a freshman WR dropped.

So, 10/15 with 2 of those drops.

Again, he wasn't great, but this overreaction after 1 week against an elite secondary while running for his life in a game in which we shut down the passing game in the 4th quarter is............silliness.

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And McCarron was the ONLY one that could hit his target worth a shite.

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Have no clue what that has to do with the theory that Alabama doesn't throw the football.

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Right now I think the criticism is unwarranted. I think Hurts was 10/18 Saturday. Out of those incompletions, Ridley was purposely held on a pass (probably would've been a TD)and the freshman WR Ruggs dropped a potential 24 yard TD pass. Also on a 20 yard pass Ridley wasn't able to plant his feet in bounds.

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and 3 of his completions were throw away to avoid a sack

Jalen Hurts Film Review - SDS

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The Seminoles defense is littered with NFL prospects, including three projected first-round picks according to CBS Sports’ most recent mock draft — S Derwin James, CB Tarvarus McFadden and DT Derrick Nnadi. True sophomore edge rusher Brian Burns will almost certainly be a future first-rounder as well.

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Passing stats: 10/18 (55.6%), 96 yards passing, 1 touchdown

Rushing stats: 15 carries, 55 yards

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The stats say that Hurts had 8 incomplete passes, but consider:

- 3 were throwaways
- 1 was a sideline pass where the DB prevented Ridley from getting his feet down (18 yards)
- 1 was a dropped pass by Ruggs in the corner of the end zone (24 yards)

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The throwaways have absolutely nothing to do with Hurts’ accuracy, and both of the other two were well-thrown balls. In addition, there’s the play that got called back (13 yards) for a holding call on Lester Cotton — which wasn’t holding, by the way.

Not counting the throwaways, Hurts easily could’ve been 13 of 16 (81.3 percent) with 151 yards passing and 2 touchdowns. If you include the throwaways in this scenario, he would’ve still completed 68.4 percent of his passes.

To put it simply, accuracy was not an issue, at all.

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Ridley was targeted 11 times by Hurts against the Seminoles, bringing in seven of those. The rest of the team saw a combined five targets with three receptions — although, one of those receptions Hurts delivered to himself.

Like with the argument regarding the accuracy, if the plays by Ruggs (drop) and Jeudy (negated by penalty) happen, then that’s 41.6 percent of Hurts completions to someone other than Ridley — compared to the 30 percent that ended up on the stat sheet.

Offenses are typically going to feed their best weapon when defenses allow it, and that’s exactly what Alabama did in this game. Hurts did, however, look to other options in this game — even if the stats don’t show it.

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And McCarron was the ONLY one that could hit his target worth a shite.

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Sims hit this one pretty well

Stat line against LSU last year similar to FSU last week:

C/ATT YDS TD INT QBR
J. Hurts 10/19 107 0 1 62.8

8 of those were probably screens.