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re: the criticism on jalen hurts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:08 am to Jjdoc
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:08 am to Jjdoc
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Can you name me 1 qb from Bama starting in the nfl?
And? There are only 32 of them. Can you name me a NFL starting QB from Texas? Ohio State? Michigan in the last 10 years? Penn State? LSU? Clemson? Florida?
1/3 of the NFL's starting QBs are from : Boston College, Cal, Delaware, North Dakota State, Northwestern, UCF and Utah. There are a lot of really good programs with elite talent year in and year out without QBs starting in the NFL.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 11:11 am
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:08 am to SummerOfGeorge
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2016 Jalen Hurts - 26 pass attempts per game
To be fair 16 of those were WR screens.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:09 am to madddoggydawg
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To be fair 16 of those were WR screens.
Of course, he was a true freshmen. It made sense for him to be on a tight leash.
That wasn't the point of the response. The point was that this notion that Alabama doesn't have good QBs because Saban only lets them hand off and throw 9 passes a game is stupid.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:09 am to stephendomalley
Watch this video and then say he wasnt a good passer last season
freshman highlights
freshman highlights
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 11:10 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:14 am to narddogg81
Lol. He's not a good passer. What I'd be concerned about are these misses when he has all day to throw.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:17 am to madddoggydawg
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What I'd be concerned about are these misses when he has all day to throw.
That was his 5th collegiate game.
He had basically the exact same situation as that play (with Ridley running a post and time to throw) against Florida State and put a 50 yard throw right on the money.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:17 am to SummerOfGeorge
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And the point is that bama does not develop passing qbs. Its nothing to get offended over.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:19 am to Jjdoc
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And the point is that bama does not develop passing qbs. Its nothing to get offended over.
I'm not offended in the least. AJ McCarron was well developed, I'd say. He will almost certainly be starting somewhere in the NFL next season (I don't know if he'll be any good, but somebody will give him starter money this offseason because that's how the NFL works with competent looking backups stuck behind long-term starters). JPW, McElroy, Sims and Coker did not possess NFL talents. Coker was probably the closest.
Now, why hasn't Alabama recruited and signed QBs with NFL skillsets? That's a different question/criticism.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:20 am to stephendomalley
Right now I think the criticism is unwarranted. I think Hurts was 10/18 Saturday. Out of those incompletions, Ridley was purposely held on a pass (probably would've been a TD)and the freshman WR Ruggs dropped a potential 24 yard TD pass. Also on a 20 yard pass Ridley wasn't able to plant his feet in bounds.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 11:26 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:21 am to SummerOfGeorge
He just throws some head-scratchers.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:21 am to narddogg81
Look at this passing chart and then tell me he was a good passer last year. Almost 40 percent of his completions were behind the line of scrimmage
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:23 am to madddoggydawg
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He just throws some head-scratchers.
He did last year, sure. Jury is still out this year, but almost all QBs make a big leap from freshman to sophomore year. I don't know how big his will be, but he didn't make any head-scratching throws Saturday under pressure against probably the best secondary in college football.
Jury is still out. I think defining him by mistakes as a true freshman and because he wisely didn't throw into possible mistakes Week 1 seems like a bit of a rushed judgment. We'll see how he progresses over this season.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:23 am to Jjdoc
hurts was the SEC OPOY last year....the guy has to be doing something right,right?...as a true freshman, he led the bastards to the NC game, so other than suggesting that he get a damn haircut, leave him alone
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:26 am to theoracle1
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Look at this passing chart and then tell me he was a good passer last year. Almost 40 percent of his completions were behind the line of scrimmage
106/171 (62%) with 14 TD and 4 INT between 0-20 yards. That's actually pretty decent. His struggle was throwing the ball deep down the field and making quick reads. He was a true freshman. That's understandable.
If he doesn't improve on that he will probably be replaced. If he does he could be pretty good.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:27 am to burdhead
He was the offensive player of the year because he played on the best team, bammer rotated 3 or 4 running backs, offensive lineman don't win those awards, and his shitty passing hampered bammers wide receivers
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:28 am to stephendomalley
He's not a very accurate passer, but when you QB a team to a 14-1 record as a true freshman, then you're doing something right. He usually takes off at the right time and makes a big play with his feet. If not for Clemson's offense being awesome, his great run in the title game in the closing minutes would have been the game winner. With their D and running game, they just need him to make plays with his feet, complete the easy ones and not turn the ball over. Unless another QB comes along with greater talents that is as collected on the field as he is, I see him being at Bama for 4 years. I don't see him as an NFL QB, but who knows...
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:29 am to Jjdoc
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And the point is that bama does not develop passing qbs. Its nothing to get offended over.
Oh, but that's where you are wrong. Blake Sims and Coker were career substitutes and in their last year they led the most prolific offenses in the SEC. Both won the conference, and both played in the title game, winning one.
Yes, Kiffin is now gone, and Daboll may or may not be a good OC, and if he isn't he'll probably be one and done. Chris Weinke and the former OC at Ole Miss are on the UA staff and it's my guess one of them will be the QB coach when the additional assistant coach is implemented in January.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:29 am to SummerOfGeorge
He completed something like 33 percent of his passes over 10 yards and 30 percent under pressure. Many of his passes between 0-10 yards were barely past the line of scrimmage in reality. He is not a good passer
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:29 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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Oh, but that's where you are wrong. Blake Sims and Coker were career substitutes and in their last year they led the most prolific offenses in the SEC. Both won the conference, and both played in the title game, winning one. Yes, Kiffin is now gone, and Daboll may or may not be a good OC, and if he isn't he'll probably be one and done. Chris Weinke and the former OC at Ole Miss are on the UA staff and it's my guess one of them will be the QB coach when the additional assistant coach is implemented in January.
It's such a weird, silly argument to make.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:31 am to theoracle1
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the criticism on jalen hurts by theoracle1He completed something like 33 percent of his passes over 10 yards
He completed 32% of his passes over 20 yards. You have no idea what he completed between 11-20 yards.
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Many of his passes between 0-10 yards were barely past the line of scrimmage in reality. He is not a good passer
Uhhu, sure they were.
Hey phan, nobody believes you when you start straying from sourced documents. It's because you are a psycho lil brother syndrome suffering stalker.
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