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re: Pure Gold from the Ole Miss board
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:58 am to REBSontheRISE
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:58 am to REBSontheRISE
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ive accepted our fate. college football seems meaningless anyway, when only a few schools are allowed to recruit at a level that will let them compete.
Dude. You're fricking OLE MISS. Why would any top recruit want to go to a perennial punching bag school in oxfart Mississippi? That's why you guys had to cheat your asses off to get recruits and the desirable programs don't need to.
You'll be a lot less miserable when you finally realize that no one is out to get you. There's no evil governing body that's keeping ole miss from winning championships because they don't like you. You don't win championships because you're ole miss.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:59 am to REBSontheRISE
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you are proving my point about the hypocracy of the NCAA...how much blue blood arse did Jackie kick before all that went down?
I would have agreed years ago, but in the past decade the NCAA hit Bama for athletes getting textbooks for non-athletes. TEXTBOOKS. They also hit USC and Ohio State. So the NCAA isn't protecting the big boys and therefore I don't think the NCAA is going after Ole Miss for beating Bama. Also, the NCAA-OM investigation started in 2012 or 2013, before OM ever beat Bama.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:21 am to Grim
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Dude. You're fricking OLE MISS.
At least we made an effort to compete with that crimson tide juggernaut in our division. meanwhile, the team you pull for bends over every year and willingly takes it up the arse while beating their chest and pretending that they are still an elite program. your team has no ball sack.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 11:35 am
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:27 am to REBSontheRISE
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REBSontheRISE
Hush little fella...cheating your way to the middle is nothing to brag about.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:30 am to Dallasgrowl
how many will this years raping of LSU by Bama make in a row? 7? 8? 15? the forseeable future? if its not 15, just give it time.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:31 am to Dawgsrule
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Didnt Freeze knowingly attend a meeting with a recruit and booster?
Umm nope. No one realized that the FCA leader holding the FCA meeting that Freeze attended and spoke at had once been a baseball season ticket holder 2 years prior (and thus why he was deemed a booster....because for 1 season prior to Freeze being the Ole Miss HC he had BASEBALL season tickets)
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:34 am to REBSontheRISE
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REBSontheRISE
Awe, you are hurting inside aren't you little fella? Don't worry, It only hurts for a lifetime.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:38 am to Dallasgrowl
I can personally guarantee you that a coach who rips off his shirt and challenges his players to a fight is not the answer...a coach who puts his squad thru a one hour full contact scrimmage during a lightening delay in a game, and then runs his fatigued squad back out on the field to finish a real game is not the answer.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:40 am to REBSontheRISE
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REBSontheRISE
I can hardly hear you over your sobbing, try to speak clearly through the tears little man.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:47 am to REBSontheRISE
quote:Personally, I think the +4 yr investigation was excessive. However, if your multiple boosters and your own Asst Athletic Director hadn't continued with their systematic benefit scheme WHILE under NCAA investigation then there wouldn't have been a need for an amended NOA, a hit of LOIC, and Coach Freeze tagged with Failure to Monitor.
REBSontheRISE
And specific to the FCA Director......why didn't Ole Miss Compliance just simply get the man vetted through the NCAA before they accepted his assistance and allowed him to organize meetings, transportation, meals, etc. to prospective recruits and their families?
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:51 am to MedDawg
quote:That's true, but it runs counter to their narrative that Alabama is behind this whole witch hunt.
Also, the NCAA-OM investigation started in 2012 or 2013, before OM ever beat Bama.
The NCAA commenced the investigation in 2012, but Ole Miss and their boosters dug the rabbit holes that the NCAA traveled like the underground railroad for another 4 yrs.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:52 am to REBSontheRISE
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how many will this years raping of LSU by Bama make in a row? 7? 8? 15? the forseeable future? if its not 15, just give it time.
To be fair, once the NCAA hands down their penalties, Ole Miss will have not beaten Alabama in 13 years.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:53 am to Vols&Shaft83
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I don't understand the want or feel that Ole Miss deserves the death penalty for the violations they have been accused of by the NCAA.
It goes on at every school and the only reason anything came up after the draft was because they couldn't nail OLe Miss for anything worth while. So they did something they have never done before. They talked to a recruit from a rival school and gave him immunity to tell his tale. Take it for what it's worth and what can proven. Obviously, the players mother had some interesting things to add to what was going in the recruiting process also.
Less than $60,000 worth of violations, but a one year bowl ban that will cost the Rebels 8-10 million dollars.
Does the punishment fit the crime?
Does $60,000 worth of infractions mean Ole Miss gets death penalty?
Is there a lack of institutional control by the staff or administration? One could argue the administration to be at fault when boosters are getting involved with recruits. I doubt if the head coach has much pull when it comes to telling boosters what to do.
It's a witch hunt, no money bags were found, even the reason for reopening the investigation left the NCAA with egg on their face, nothing came of the request for money to the electricity bill?
So why do so many believe the death penalty is deserved.
Simple, they know that Hugh Freeze can beat SEC top tier teams with less talent. What happens when he can achieve equal talent?
The Tide could be turning and the powers that be don't like for the boat to be rocked.
Ole Miss would lose 10 years of the success they have had under Freeze if they let him go. This is what the "others" were hoping for. This is what the Alabama alum investigating the Rebels went looking for.
Screw everyone else, Ole Miss needs to do what is best for Ole Miss football. No one in the SEC has any room to point fingers at Ole Miss during this investigation
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:57 am to Vols&Shaft83
There isn't any serious chatter about OM receiving the death penalty is there?
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:57 am to RT1941
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And specific to the FCA Director......why didn't Ole Miss Compliance just simply get the man vetted through the NCAA before they accepted his assistance and allowed him to organize meetings, transportation, meals, etc. to prospective recruits and their families?
Because our Compliance Dept was completely incompetent. Freeze and Heard had dealt with the guy while at Arkansas State and continued their relationship when they came to Ole Miss. In reality the student athlete in question was a 2* DT that they had recruited at Arky State and gave him a s holly when they moved to Ole Miss because he was a good kid. Plus when Ole Miss did identify the issue and report it to the NCAA the guy refused to stop because he believed he wasn't influencing the kid in a negative way and that FCA was exempt to the 9th grade rule.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:00 pm to tomsellecksmustache
That's TSUNRebel at his best. He also thinks OM's best chance to win the SEC is 2018, as he thinks Freeze is the only coach that could ride out a 2 yr bowl ban and still retain recruiting classes inside the top 25.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:02 pm to RT1941
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And specific to the FCA Director......why didn't Ole Miss Compliance just simply get the man vetted through the NCAA before they accepted his assistance and allowed him to organize meetings, transportation, meals, etc. to prospective recruits and their families?
incompetence...not having the luxury of our head coach being best friends and golf buddies with the head of the NCAA to guide us thru the landmine field of the NCAA got us blown up in the end.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:04 pm to ABearsFanNMS
I am at a lost why anyone thinks Bama is behind this investigation. This is because the investigator that took over after the Tunsil draft night situation had a huge bone to pick with CHF and had someone spoon feeding her.
Long story short we will likely get pounded by the COI but what they "found" over a +4 year investigation is nearly laughable. No one can say with a straight face that their own school wouldn't suffer the same exact thing if the NCAA did likewise at their school.
Long story short we will likely get pounded by the COI but what they "found" over a +4 year investigation is nearly laughable. No one can say with a straight face that their own school wouldn't suffer the same exact thing if the NCAA did likewise at their school.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:10 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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And specific to the FCA Director......why didn't Ole Miss Compliance just simply get the man vetted through the NCAA before they accepted his assistance and allowed him to organize meetings, transportation, meals, etc. to prospective recruits and their families?
quote:Couple that statement with the shenanigans of Barney Farrar (Asst Athletic Director) and the LOIC could be justified.
Because our Compliance Dept was completely incompetent. Freeze and Heard had dealt with the guy while at Arkansas State and continued their relationship when they came to Ole Miss. In reality the student athlete in question was a 2* DT that they had recruited at Arky State and gave him a s holly when they moved to Ole Miss because he was a good kid. Plus when Ole Miss did identify the issue and report it to the NCAA the guy refused to stop because he believed he wasn't influencing the kid in a negative way and that FCA was exempt to the 9th grade rule.
If your Compliance Dept sucks arse and your Atletic Dept has a staffer facilitating impermissible contact and benefits between boosters and recruits, then Ole Miss has no control over the Institution.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:12 pm to REBSontheRISE
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when only a few schools are allowed to recruit at a level that will let them compete.
This line of thinking shows you really haven't accepted that you did anything wrong
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