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re: Pat Dye wants to cancel the Iron Bowl
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:45 am to Huddie Leadbetter
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:45 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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I had a friend that was in Auburn for business. He saw it himself. Your own comments, exhibiting lack of respect for the deceased, is indicative of the same frame of mind. And you talk about rednecks?...
Yep, those 3 guys represent the entire fanbase. Trust me, this is a game you don't want to play.
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:48 am to FearlessFreep
This is not meant negatively but has anyone considered that the 90' through the early 2010's was probably the most successful period in Auburn history and not the norm? If they revert to their mean, it won't be "balancing" anything to move them to the east. Nor will it be easier for them to get to Atlanta. If rekindling slumbering rivalries with UF and UT (who I only remember you playing occasionally) is the goal, will you be happy with a .500 more or less record with them?
I am old enough to remember hearing this same rhetoric in the 70's when Bama was dominating the series. Many Auburn fans were tired of losing ugly games to Bama and just wanted to quit playing them. Lucky for Auburn those voices were ignored. You turned the tables in the 80s and 90s. Now you want to quit again??
I am old enough to remember hearing this same rhetoric in the 70's when Bama was dominating the series. Many Auburn fans were tired of losing ugly games to Bama and just wanted to quit playing them. Lucky for Auburn those voices were ignored. You turned the tables in the 80s and 90s. Now you want to quit again??
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:48 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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Huddie Leadbetter
Don't worry about replying to me. You're a nutjob fan and not worth conversing with. Have a nice day.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:50 am to Huddie Leadbetter
quote:No it didn't. And I blame idiots like you for pretending it did.
I don't blame Auburn fans for denying it happened, but it did.
BTW, here's another link for you to ignore. For the rest of those reading, here's a quote from the linked article:
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Not only was there no indication of any public celebration in Auburn -- let alone rolling Toomer's Corner -- most of the reports focused on the grief and respect coming from Bryant's rivals.
"When word reached Auburn, the War Eagles mourned," was the headline in the Birmingham News the next day.
The story was filled with quotes from Auburn coaches and players expressing shock.
"Like all great men, he may be gone, but the things he taught us all will last forever," said then-Auburn coach Pat Dye, who was also a former Bryant assistant at Alabama.
The Opelika-Auburn News front-page headline read: "Praise, Tears Come for Bear." A subhead read: "Auburn Players Feel the Loss of Great Coach."
Now, if you can find any semi-reputable news source that makes a credible claim that Toomer's was rolled when Bryant died, feel free to provide it and let us judge which source is more authoritative.
In the meantime, continue to post a pic of a bunch of idiot AU frat boys making fun of Bama's bizarre devotion to a man who died years before they were born as though it were "proof" of something that never happened.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 9:05 am
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:52 am to phil4bama
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Now you want to quit again??
Again, you are taking the word of a drunk old senile coach. He's the same guy who said he'd take Gene Chizik over Saban.
I don't personally know a single Auburn fan who wants to drop the Alabama game, we just want to play the teams we used to play.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 8:52 am
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:02 am to phil4bama
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but has anyone considered that the 90' through the early 2010'
Only children who just started watching football.
Do you understand how successful Auburn was in the 1980's?
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:04 am to phil4bama
quote:What, exactly, do you consider our "mean"? We had a roughly 30 year period (1923-51) where our administration essentially de-emphasized football, in which we had the worst winning percentage of any SEC school, past or present. Then we hired Shug, and since then we are second only to Bama in the conference, and #10 overall amongst P5 schools.
This is not meant negatively but has anyone considered that the 90' through the early 2010's was probably the most successful period in Auburn history and not the norm? If they revert to their mean
And that period includes not only every year of our NCAA probations, but the entirety of Bryant's tenure at Bama, as well as the entire SEC coaching histories of Saban, Stallings, Spurrier, Meyer, Dooley, Majors, Fulmer, and Miles, just to name those with NCs on their resumes.
Yeah, I think our "mean" is a lot better than you pretend it to be. That said,
quote:No, our drunk former HC wants to. Fortunately, he no longer has the influence on our program he once had.
You turned the tables in the 80s and 90s. Now you want to quit again??
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:05 am to Irons Puppet
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By the time of Bryant's death, he was a shell of himself. A lot of AU fans had empathy for him and even felt sorry for how it ended. Just a few weeks before we saw how IB ended with a young Dye embracing him at midfield after the game. Then we saw the Liberty Bowl and how his career ended in that frozen hell. Nobody celebrated his death and some recognized an end of an era, even if it had ended poorly for him and the program. The hatred today might have resulted in a different reaction, but again it didn't happen in 83.
Good Lord Dude - That is some hyperbole. Bryant's last year was pretty dismal by his standards (8 wins so think 2016 Auburn) but that was just 3 seasons removed from back-to-back titles.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:05 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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He saw it himself.
He either lied or was probably the only person doing it.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:06 am to FearlessFreep
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Fortunately, he no longer has the influence on our program he once had.
Damn, I hope not
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:07 am to DuncanIdaho
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I don't personally know a single Auburn fan who wants to drop the Alabama game,
I would be fine with dropping it. Not because of the competition on the field but because I am tired of the yammering from the Alabama fanbase. It isn't a fun rivalry.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:10 am to weagle99
quote:Do you honestly think that would stop if AU lobbied for an end to the IB?
I would be fine with dropping it. Not because of the competition on the field but because I am tired of the yammering from the Alabama fanbase.
If anything, it would probably get a lot worse.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:10 am to weagle99
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but has anyone considered that the 90' through the early 2010'
Only children who just started watching football.
Do you understand how successful Auburn was in the 1980's?
As previously noted: Auburn's best years vs Alabama were Dye's era, for which Auburn was busted by the ncaa for cheating, and 1997-2007, during which time Alabama was recovering, (with Mike Shula 4 of those years), from its own probations. I think I said earlier that other than that, Auburn had beaten UA only 12 times, but a review shows it's only 8 times during my lifetime.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 9:18 am
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:12 am to Huddie Leadbetter
How many times has Bama beaten AU in your lifetime ?
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:14 am to stomp
Dye grasping for attention
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:17 am to weagle99
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Do you understand how successful Auburn was in the 1980's?
Auburn was the best team in the SEC in the 80's and Dye was the best coach. If we had they had the playoff era then, I believe AU would have won a title. Maybe two.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:21 am to Irons Puppet
quote:15 during mine.
How many times has Bama beaten AU in your lifetime ?
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:24 am to Huddie Leadbetter
quote:We've had the 2nd best winning percentage of any SEC school since 1951, a span of 66 seasons.
Auburn's best years vs Alabama were Dye's era, for which Auburn was busted by the ncaa for cheating, and the Tubberville years, during which time Alabama was recovering, with Mike Shula, from its own probations
AU's winning percentage over the last six and a half decades is .67420. Multiply that by a 12-game season and you get an average of 8.09 wins per year.
For comparative purposes, Bama's winning percentage over that same period is .73946 (and that figure includes the 29 on-field victories that the NCAA took away for cheating under multiple HCs). That computes to an average win total 8.87 over 12 games.
So congratulations on that huge .78 win per season advantage.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 9:27 am
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:25 am to Irons Puppet
1. It provides some parity within the league. How?
2. It gives the league a chance to have some better matchups in the regular season. How is AU vs. UF/UT/SC worth jeopardizing the biggest rivalry in college football?
3. It allows Missouri to develop some geographical rivals, and allows the fans a chance to follow them on the road.
frick MISSOURI
2. It gives the league a chance to have some better matchups in the regular season. How is AU vs. UF/UT/SC worth jeopardizing the biggest rivalry in college football?
3. It allows Missouri to develop some geographical rivals, and allows the fans a chance to follow them on the road.
frick MISSOURI
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:32 am to stomp
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How does AU moving to the East positively benefit the entire SEC?
I never said it did. I actually believe you could argue it hurts the SEC because it provides us a leg up in Florida for recruiting. We have taken more kids from arkie, mississippi, etc...since expansion than we ever did prior. It is related to who we play and how you can sell your program to recruits. We still do ok in Florida, but historically it was our 3rd most important ground after Alabama and Georgia. I also believe this was the main factor preventing us from being put in the east to begin with because bama didn't want it.
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