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re: Pat Dye wants to cancel the Iron Bowl

Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:33 am to
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1. It provides some parity within the league. How? 2. It gives the league a chance to have some better matchups in the regular season. How is AU vs. UF/UT/SC worth jeopardizing the biggest rivalry in college football? 3. It allows Missouri to develop some geographical rivals, and allows the fans a chance to follow them on the road. frick MISSOURI


First of all, I do not think you will see the AU-UA game go away. But it will force the SEC to look at how they schedule games.
A stronger East allows the SEC to have the potential to have two teams in the playoff. If the East was strong, the loser of the SECCG still could get into the playoff.
At least with AU VS UF/UT Games you have something worth watching most years. The SECE Games in late Oct and early Nov have been like watching CUSA Games.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:35 am to
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I had a friend that was in Auburn for business. He saw it himself.


Concerning rolling the trees when Coach Bryant passed...your friend lied to you and you are now lying on the misinformation he fed you.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 9:37 am
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:38 am to
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A stronger East allows the SEC to have the potential to have two teams in the playoff. If the East was strong, the loser of the SECCG still could get into the playoff.


This may be true but you do realize you are giving Bama a golden ticket to Atlanta every year. LSU would be the only challenging game. Maybe Aggie once and awhile. I think the West would be a one team conference basically since Bama seems to have LSU's number.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:50 am to
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A stronger East allows the SEC to have the potential to have two teams in the playoff. If the East was strong, the loser of the SECCG still could get into the playoff.


UGA and UF will be better than Auburn in the foreseeable future. Wait and watch.

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:51 am to
Snapshot in time. What did the SEC look like in 2007, 2002 and 1997. Things are always changing in College Football. Who knows Mizzu might become a beast, so why not at least give them a chance to establish SEC roots. It hasn't happened so far.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:51 am to
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UGA and UF will be better than Auburn in the foreseeable future

2nd time you've said this. Why?
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Wait and watch.

I will.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:51 am to
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Tigerman97


Who could expect you guys to admit it.

Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:54 am to
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UGA and UF will be better than Auburn in the foreseeable future


2nd time you've said this. Why?


I think most unbiased observers would think that. Why? One major reason is recruiting. The state of Florida produces more blue chip players than any state, and Georgia is behind only Florida, Texas, and California. They are both the flagship universities in their state, especially UGA, and will generally get more of the best instate prospects than Auburn will.

edit: Besides that, both towns are much cooler and have much more to do than Auburn Alabama.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:02 am to
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One major reason is recruiting

Where do you think Auburn has been recruiting in regard to either school? Auburn has been ahead of Florida as long as I can remember. And we have been right there with UGA. I've seen nothing to show that changing anytime soon.
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both towns are much cooler and have much more to do that Auburn Alabama.

LOL. Are you sure Tillman isn't your alter? Have you ever been to Gainesville? Athens is a very cool town, but definitely a bigger city and a lot more places to get into trouble. And that's been the same as long as I've been an AU fan and clearly hasn't affected recruiting.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:05 am to
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I think most unbiased observers would think that. Why? One major reason is recruiting. The state of Florida produces more blue chip players than any state, and Georgia is behind only Florida, Texas, and California. They are both the flagship universities in their state, especially UGA, and will generally get more of the instate prospects than Auburn will.

edit: Besides that, both towns are much cooler and have much more to do than Auburn Alabama.


The flawed logic here is obvious. The info you shared has always been the case and Auburn has always competed during the modern era with uga, uf and bama. I read an article years ago which suggested 85% of college football players attend a university within a 4 hour window of their home town. If you look at Auburn's 4 hour window it explains why we are able to do well in recruiting without the built in advantage of being the State named school. It also helps that our window includes Atlanta which though in Georgia has never been a place where the families and kids are predominately uga. The same could be said of N. Florida and C. Florida concerning FSU and uf.

I also suspect there are plenty of list which rate Auburn as a better college town than either Gainesville or Athens, but I don't feel like searching for the info to prop up an argument which doesn't address the fact that kids go to school for lots of reasons not just the town.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:07 am to
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Auburn has been ahead of Florida as long as I can remember. And we have been right there with UGA.


Since 1990 UF is 11-6 vs Auburn and UGA is 14-11-1, and 8-2 the last 10 years.

Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:09 am to
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Since 1990 UF is 11-6 vs Auburn and UGA is 14-11-1, and 8-2 the last 10 years.



Dear lawd, he clearly meant recruiting.

As has been said in this thread a hundred times we play for trophies, not series leads.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:09 am to
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I also suspect there are plenty of list which rate Auburn as a better college town than either Gainesville or Athens


snicker

Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:12 am to
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As has been said in this thread a hundred times we play for trophies, not series leads


That's a good one, considering that until 2004, Auburn was tied with Georgia Tech, which hasn't been in the SEC since like 1964, with 5 SEC titles.

UGA and UF both have more SEC titles than does Auburn.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 10:13 am
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:15 am to
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That's a good one, considering that until 2004, Auburn was tied with Georgia Tech, which hasn't been in the SEC since like 1964, with 5 SEC titles.

UGA and UF both have more SEC titles than does Auburn.



You cherry pick. What about using the 1990 standard you used for the series info?

I simply stated that I care about winning titles. I could careless about series leads, etc...In my lifetime Auburn has a winning record against bama. I would trade it for hardware.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:19 am to
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In my lifetime Auburn has a winning record against bama. I would trade it for hardware.


Talk about cherry picking, you must be 15 years old or 35 years old, because otherwise, that's bullshite. In either event, you must like living in the past, because it's 7&3 the last 10 years.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 10:21 am
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:21 am to
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You must be 15 years old or 35 years old, because otherwise, that's bullshite. In either event, you must like living in the past, because it's 7&3 the last 10 years.


18-17

Do the math! Nobody cares about series leads unless the team they have the lead over has trophies and they need something to waive around to take the shine of the other teams trophies.

As a bama I would just talk about the trophies. It's further evidence you are not a bama fan and most likely an alter of a team who can't win a trophy.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 10:23 am
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:24 am to
As noted, you had to be 15 or 35, because that's the only 2 years you can claim that. Nevermind that before you were born Alabama ruled that arse, same as now.

And you guys used to claim Alabama fans lived in the past.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 10:27 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:27 am to
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quote:A stronger East allows the SEC to have the potential to have two teams in the playoff. If the East was strong, the loser of the SECCG still could get into the playoff. UGA and UF will be better than Auburn in the foreseeable future. Wait and watch.


Not under those two ex-Saban Coaches. Both Programs have great potential, but they seem to screw it up every time. Both went with the "Jelly of the Month" hire in hopes of mimicking Saban's success.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:29 am to
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As noted, you had to be 15 or 35, because that's the only 2 years you can claim that. Nevermind that before you were born Alabama ruled that arse, same as now.

And you guys used to claim Alabama fans lived in the past.


In what realm could a 45-35-1 series be considered ruling? You are entertaining in your exuberance to share ignorance.

Just think of how close this series would be if we hadn't been handicapped with sanctions through most of the 90's. Man, just think.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 10:31 am
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