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re: Pat Dye "all Condi Rice knows about football someone told her"

Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:54 pm to
Successful people are successful for a reason. It's because they can analyze things, look at data, decide on proper course of action given a set of circumstances. Football isn't rocket science. This isn't going to be a hard job. My dad could do it and he's barely a football fan. But he's good with data.

Are you a coach or a former player?
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:56 pm to
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We have just not to this magnitude. Why though, because it the easiest to discredit and the most salacious in the news.


No. It's because the knuckle draggers on Internet boards don't need no womenfolk on no football committee.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:01 pm to
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Successful people are successful for a reason. It's because they can analyze things, look at data, decide on proper course of action given a set of circumstances


Not all successful people fit this bill or are transitive to different career fields.
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Football isn't rocket science


Successful coaches are successful for a reason
In this case you already have a candidate field who is specialized in the open position.
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This isn't going to be a hard job.


This is a multi billion dollar decision to be made, why not limit your potential targets for the position to experts in the field. Is it smart to take a risk on someone who is just a fan?

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a former player?

I would not consider myself qualified or even remotely. Again this is a billion dollar industry. Would I love to do it? Of course. Do I think I could make a great decision? Of course. But I am no where near qualified nor is condoleeza.

Posted by NIH
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:04 pm to
Don't waste your time, this Mizzou fan is either a woman or some emasculated liberal.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:11 pm to
I'm neither. I just don't think that a selection committee has to be made of former players and/or coaches to do the job.

What sport did Bud Selig play in school? What college did Roger Goodell play at? Walt Jocketty played what position? How about Bill DeWitt?

I reject your premise that a person has to play a sport to be able to effectively evaluate anything regarding the sport. It's been proven wrong thousands of times.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:14 pm to
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Not all successful people fit this bill or are transitive to different career fields.


Right. Lots of amazing athletes fail as talent evaluators and businessmen/women. So..... I'll let you connect the dots.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:17 pm to
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Lots of amazing athletes fail as talent evaluators and businessmen/women


Well I don't think a failure in his field qualifies a good applicant. This isn't an entry or lower level position here. This is cream of the crop.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:18 pm to
Well there goes one vote we will never get. Thanks Obama...errr Pat
Posted by Tiger Live2
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:24 pm to
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: From what I've read most of the staff at the White House are hard core sports fans.

So are all of us. Yet I would say, only maybe a couple should be on the committee. And that's being generous.
Posted by bingo
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:32 pm to
the selection committe will benefit from rice's major high level experience in moderating debate, facilitating conversation,managing large egos and findig ways to solve pretty big, as well as, petty problems.

it's not like they went out and randomly grabbed a donald trump just because he has been successful in the business world. the woman is very familiar with the administrative side of college and college athletics and, does actually watch cfb games, unlike many of the coaches who vote in one of the current polls and probably sees more cfb than some of the ad's who have been appointed to the committee.

Posted by stevo1905
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:37 pm to
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Dye was of no mind to explain further. "I'm going hunting," he said. "If they [the Orangemen] wanted to win, they should have blocked the field goal."

Posted by CFBFAN1121
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:37 pm to
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My dad could do it and he's barely a football fan. But he's good with data.



And thats THE problem. People have this notion that evaluating teams is merely anlyzing stats (data) on a piece of paper which couldn't be farther from the truth.

Wouldn't surprise me if condi doesn't know the difference between a DT and a safety. But hey, she watches games therfore she's an expert on the sport
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 6:51 pm to
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Wasn't Condi Rice the one who hired Tyrone Willingham (before he turned to complete shite at Notre Dame and Washington)


No. She was the provost when Willingham was hired...the chief budget and academic officer.

Ironically, Willingham reportedly will be on the committee also.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:00 pm to
She turned down the Pac 10 Commissioner job. And she apparently recruits a lot for Stanford's football program.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:02 pm to
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I agree, so did Rick and Bubba



these guys? Well, hell, that settles it then.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:07 pm to
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Tds & Beer
Pat Dye "all Condi Rice knows about football someone told her"
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You said football knowledge. One would assume that if you're an integral member of an interviewing committee for a football coach and over an athletic budget that you just might have a decent understanding of the sport.


You would think that wouldn't you? I wish that was always true.


After Croom and Merlins, one can understand where you're coming from.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:08 pm to
Let Vegas determine who makes the playoffs. They'd probably be the most accurate.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:09 pm to
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Get impartial people who know and write well about the game and are guaranteed to watch most games every weekend.


Most of those people don't watch most games every weekend. I'll guarantee you that lots of top sportswriters in the east often don't stay up late to watch Pac games.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:10 pm to
I would think that some might be more concerned about Willingham. Any chance that he might have a hard-on to screw ND?
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:14 pm to
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Wouldn't surprise me if condi doesn't know the difference between a DT and a safety. But hey, she watches games therfore she's an expert on the sport


I bet she does but either way it's not a very good argument IMO- she's not going to be determining who's the best DT or safety, it's about the team as a whole not individual positions.

Also, I'd rather have someone intelligent and capable of decision making like Condi over some half witted good old boy former player.



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