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re: Pat Dye "all Condi Rice knows about football someone told her"
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:21 pm to Bama Bird
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:21 pm to Bama Bird
Heaven forbid she provide a different perspective based on her own experience that might come in useful when contrasted with the views of others who have been firmly rooted in the sport for 40 years. 
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:23 pm to Bama Bird
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Condi has multiple degrees from top tier schools
And when she was Provost at Stanford she was part of the interviewing process in hiring their football coach (ETA: It was likely Willingham). She also oversaw their athletic budget. Her father was also a HS football coach, where she admits she picked up a good majority of what she knows about football.
Mike Freeman who wrote "Bloody Sundays: Inside the Rough and Tumble World of the NFL" has a chapter about her and her football ties. Pretty informative stuff.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:26 pm to BluegrassBelle
I think she'll do a fine job. 1 and 2, maybe even 3 will be clear choices I'd bet. 4 could be the only dicey pick for the committee to decide, and how they decide to seed them, if 2 from one conference makes the cuts, and I don't believe she'd have bias in that. Folks are getting too worked up over this. I think she was a good choice for the committee. Most outspoken critics in the media and former coaches, are likely feeling left out and this is their way to be relevant again, if for just a short moment in time.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:27 pm to StopRobot
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Pat Dye "all Condi Rice knows about football someone told her"
I agree, so did Rick and Bubba this morning and most other sports figures. Nobaby wants Condi Rice to have any say so in the playoff system.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:28 pm to StopRobot
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"All she knows about football is what somebody told her," Dye said. "Or what she read in a book, or what she saw on television. To understand football, you've got to play with your hand in the dirt or coached a team that does"
FIFP
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:30 pm to BluegrassBelle
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And when she was Provost at Stanford she was part of the interviewing process in hiring their football coach (ETA: It was likely Willingham). She also oversaw their athletic budget. Her father was also a HS football coach, where she admits she picked up a good majority of what she knows about football.
Mike Freeman who wrote "Bloody Sundays: Inside the Rough and Tumble World of the NFL" has a chapter about her and her football ties. Pretty informative stuff.
That's cool. Maybe she should coach a pee-wee team. Either way she can gtfo.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:30 pm to NYCAuburn
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someone who is just a fan of football should not be a deciding factor in the playoffs, sorry
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:32 pm to AUtigR24
I for one do not want Condi Rice, Donald Trump, Mark Cuban, and Oprah deciding who plays in the playoff. Pat Dye may be an old drunk he is spot on here.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:33 pm to Bellabama
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Heaven forbid she provide a different perspective based on her own experience that might come in useful when contrasted with the views of others who have been firmly rooted in the sport for 40 years.
My view as well.
I think the people who currently vote in the rankings all have the exact same mind set. It's all about record and nothing to do with the strengths and weaknesses of the teams, who they've beat and who & where did they lose.
It is simply amazing that College Football is the ONLY sport that people use W-L as the only criteria of where to rank teams. In every single other sport the overall strength of teams vs others is evaluated. You see Big East and Big Ten teams in College Basketball, and rightfully so, that have 19-11 records ranked much higher than lessor conference teams with sterling 28-2 records.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:34 pm to bama my heart
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Dye is just of the old school and sees women as someone that should be a cheerleader or in the band
This is true and just another reason why Pat Dye is fricking awesome and the GOAT.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:36 pm to Tds & Beer
At the end of a season, Ray Charles can see the best 2-3 teams in the SEC. It may be decades before Auburn is being considered by the committee so doesn't really matter what Pat Dye thinks, nor whether Condi has a bammer bias.
It is more worrisome to have Arkie J Long on the committee...he did hire, BFP, JL, and BB.
It is more worrisome to have Arkie J Long on the committee...he did hire, BFP, JL, and BB.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:37 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Mike Freeman who wrote "Bloody Sundays: Inside the Rough and Tumble World of the NFL" has a chapter about her and her football ties. Pretty informative stuff.
There's still about a million people with more football knowledge than her.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:38 pm to Tds & Beer
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There's still about a million people with more football knowlege than her.
A million people have worked as a provost at a major FBS university overseeing an athletic budget and hiring their football coach?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:40 pm to BluegrassBelle
Pat Dye: "I know, but she's a womern"
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:41 pm to DamnStrong1860
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Isn't that the case with most fans? Not saying experience isn't valuable but how many guys who played know anything besides the position they played? Most ex-players don't go on to be coaches on any level. You can study any game and become an expert if thats what you want to do. How many guys who actually played pro basketball know more about pro basketball than Jeff Van Gundy? Nick Saban apparently wasn't good enough to play football at Bama or LSU; how many guys who've played (or Coached) at either school know more about football than him?
The lady was Secretary of State and National Security Advisor. She literally made life or death decisions for a living. Anyone who thinks she can't accurately pick the four top teams in the country is an idiot. Most years the top four is even up for debate.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:42 pm to BluegrassBelle
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o if you played high school football you all of a sudden have this great understanding of college football that no one else could ever have because they didn't play?
umm, those guys played football and have years of first hand experience coaching football as well. and my reply was meant to show the coaches who supposedly didnt play football and are coaches, actually have played football, just not CFB
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:42 pm to Tds & Beer
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There's still about a million people with more football knowlege than her.
Classic. And if you're a State fan on your own free will, then you don't have much football knowledge either.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:43 pm to DamnStrong1860
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If that's the case lets leave the picking up to the Rant. Every dumbarse on here played junior high or high school ball.
Do they actually coach football on a professional level as well.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:43 pm to BluegrassBelle
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A million people have worked as a provost at a major FBS university overseeing an athletic budget and hiring their football coach?
No. I didn't say that now did I?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:44 pm to Tiger the Hutt
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And if you're a State fan on your own free will, then you don't have much football knowledge either.
Yeah let me just go ahead and change my fandom real quick like all the camo'd out trash lsu fans around here.
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