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re: Pat Dye "all Condi Rice knows about football someone told her"

Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:11 pm to
There are plenty of ADs who know dick about football. Condoleeza fills two minority spots so I guess that's good and all.
Posted by danfraz
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:12 pm to
Can't believe I'm saying this but pat dye is right


Oh she's a fan, lets put her on the committee

What a crock of shite

Edit- spelling an did I say crock of shite? It's a crock of shite and the PC police come a running, oh you can't say that- frick that she shouldn't be anywhere near this playoff committee
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 5:13 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:14 pm to
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Wimmens can do what they want. DWI


Being a women really isn't the issue
Posted by Maroon Flash
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:14 pm to
She is on there to cast the swing vote to tilt the picks to Stanford or other non-SEC teams.

Watch and see! She seems like a nice lady, but probably doesn't truly know jack shite about football.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 5:16 pm
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:16 pm to
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Can't believe I'm saying this but pat dye is right


Oh she's a fan, lets put her on the committee

What a crock of shite

Edit- spelling an did I say crock of shite? It's a crock of shite and the PC police come a running, oh you can't say that- frick that she shouldn't be anywhere near this playoff committee



Well, yeah, of course it's a crock of shite if you put it like that. It's easy to make a valid point if you define the terms of the discussion. If she's "just a fan" she has no better argument than, say, Paris Hilton or Adam Sandler. The problem is, there are many much better reasons than her just being some random fan.

I love how people on the Internet think they're clever when they're just being dismally obvious.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:19 pm to
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You said football knowledge. One would assume that if you're an integral member of an interviewing committee for a football coach and over an athletic budget that you just might have a decent understanding of the sport. That's just a hunch.


And yet Texas hired Deloss Dodds.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:23 pm to
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Well, yeah, of course it's a crock of shite if you put it like that


Well it is like that. What exactly has she done to be placed on the committee that chooses the participants in the four team national championship based on their ON FIELD accomplishments? Has she coached a football team or played in a football game? Or is she a big fan? Cause all I've heard is oh well she knows football cause she's a big fan. Please lay out the reasoning for her to be able to EVALUATE on field football teams/talent
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:35 pm to
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Being a women really isn't the issue


Don't kid yourself.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:37 pm to
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She seems like a nice lady, but probably doesn't truly know jack shite about football.


Probably? Are we transitioning from misogyny to extractions from the rectal repository? Cool cool.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:39 pm to
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Well, yeah, of course it's a crock of shite if you put it like that. It's easy to make a valid point if you define the terms of the discussion. If she's "just a fan" she has no better argument than, say, Paris Hilton or Adam Sandler. The problem is, there are many much better reasons than her just being some random fan. I love how people on the Internet think they're clever when they're just being dismally obvious.


I'll post what I guess is you " many much better reasons" from your other post. Sorry on iPad this sucks posting quotes.

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All I know is that I'd trust pretty much anyone over Pat Dye to pick a playoff team. The guy's a drunk and doesn't know to wash his hands after sticking his fingers in the turf. It's perfectly possible for a smart, capable, educated person to understand how good a given team is without having spent his autumns in high school playing 3rd string DB just to elevate his chances of getting laid by girls too ugly to attract the attention of the star quarterback. I played high school ball (2nd string, bitches) and I'll freely admit I'd trust Rice over pretty much every football player I knew because, frick, she's smarter and more capable of objective analysis than any of them.


First off no one is saying pat dye is an ideal candidate. No one is saying any random person is also an ideal candidate or more qualified just because they have paid football. What people are saying is an ideal candidate would be someone how holds some specialized experience. in the field of the position they will hold. And the most ideal candidate would be an expert in football, knows the ins and outs first hand(which includes playing and coaching) and also holds a somewhat objective opinion.

While hard to find those people, it is also very possible as well. We are talking about just a few people here. My ideal candidate would be a career nfl coach, although not obtainable. However retired coaches, or even job hoppers in the college ranks that didn't have a tie to a school would work well. Coaches have a better eye for the game, that's what they are/were paid to do.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:41 pm to
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Don't kid yourself.


Can you provide a female football coach or player who would make qualified candidate?
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:42 pm to
Are you saying the opposition to Condi has no connection to her gender?
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
3393 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:42 pm to
She shouldn't be on the committee...neither should any of those ADs. Get impartial people who know and write well about the game and are guaranteed to watch most games every weekend.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112620 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:43 pm to
it has mostly to do with the fact that she's a fricking fan. her qualifications at best are competitive with a small time athletic director. if you can't see that you're being obtuse.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:45 pm to
Spot on.

Hell I'd be fine with FBS coaches being on the committee. You know why? Cause football is their job. Condi's job has been politics, the last fricking thing that should be use on this committee
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:45 pm to
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Are you saying the opposition to Condi has no connection to her gender?


I am saying MY opposition to Condi has no connection to her gender, and I'm quite sure NYC would say so as well.

However we cannot speak for everyone, a generalization that the opposition is based on gender would be as erroneous as a generalization that the opposition isn't based on gender.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:48 pm to
No. It doesn't. If it was primarily based on her qualifications, we'd be hearing more about the other "poorly qualified" members of the committee.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:50 pm to
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Are you saying the opposition to Condi has no connection to her gender


The only correlation to gender is the direct knowledge that there are no females that fit the qualifications that most feel are needed for the position. Those qualifications being having coached and played for a living and a top level. Please list any women that would fit that position as I know of none.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:52 pm to
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No. It doesn't. If it was primarily based on her qualifications, we'd be hearing more about the other "poorly qualified" members of the committee


We have just not to this magnitude. Why though, because it the easiest to discredit and the most salacious in the news.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:53 pm to
I know shite about her, but I bet she can pick teams better than you jack legs.
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