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re: Pandora's box is now open...smith to be a dawg per sec!
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:04 pm to Errerrerrwere
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:04 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Was he not your nickel back?
Pretty sure it was assumed he would be our 5th back in nickel sets, but it never got set in stone prior to all this occurring. Most fans assume he was the nickel guy though, myself included.
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:08 pm to skrayper
Can't wait till the REC kicks the SEC office out of Birmingham because of all this 
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:10 pm to spacewrangler
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Why stop with grad transfers. A scholarship is only for 1 year. At the end of the year they've done what was asked of them. Let them transfer, within the SEC and play immediately. Bama will be able to get players in positions of need that have experience. Which QB could Bama take from another SEC team. ?
Apples and oranges. A grad transfer would almost always only have one year of eligibility left. And despite the uproar, they're not really that common. The federal graduation rate in all of FBS is only around 75% with the SEC sitting around the 60s. That's a limited pool when you consider quality of athletes.
I don't even want to think about the mess academically for a kid who transfers from one school to another for four years.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:13 pm to PBD4BAMA
So much misinformation on page 1.
After a player graduates, they can transfer to any school they want and play immediately.
Saban just wanted the rule change because it hurt him this time.
After a player graduates, they can transfer to any school they want and play immediately.
Saban just wanted the rule change because it hurt him this time.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:16 pm to 14&Counting
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Invoking the rule that all 14 member schools agreed upon is showing his arse?
The NCAA/ SEC rules are written to protect student athletes. Saban tried to use those rules to protect his football team, not Smith. That's why the SEC ruled in Smiths favor. So yes Saban is a giant arse.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:20 pm to wadewilson
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After a player graduates, they can transfer to any school they want and play immediately.
SEC bylaws state otherwise.
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The waiver grants Smith an exemption from two SEC bylaws, one that requires a student-athlete to have two years of eligibility remaining and another that requires a transfer going to another conference school to be there one full academic year before they are eligible to play.
I'm sure you're capable of reading the second sentence, but just in case the words are too big:
You graduate. You go elsewhere. You wait, then play. SEC sayz so.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:21 pm to IrrationalMeltdown
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The NCAA/ SEC rules are written to protect student athletes. Saban tried to use those rules to protect his football team, not Smith. That's why the SEC ruled in Smiths favor. So yes Saban is a giant arse.
The only rebuttal I need is your screen name.
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IrrationalMeltdown
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:24 pm to skrayper
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skrayper
I thought it was appropriate for the rant.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:26 pm to HempHead
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Other than Chris Black going from Bama to Mizzou, are there other cases of grads transferring within the conference? Legitimate question.
Stephen Rivers transferred from LSU to Vandy on a graduate transfer. CLM blessed the transfer.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:27 pm to IrrationalMeltdown
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The NCAA/ SEC rules are written to protect student athletes.
Not necessarily
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Saban tried to use those rules to protect his football team, not Smith.
Saban invoked the rule that is on the books. nothing more....and where should Saban's loyalty lie?
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So yes Saban is a giant arse.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:27 pm to wadewilson
quote:So much incorrect information in this post.
So much misinformation on page 1.
After a player graduates, they can transfer to any school they want and play immediately.
Saban just wanted the rule change because it hurt him this time.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:29 pm to GetmorewithLes
quote:Les Miles is a good man. Nice, funny, affable, easy going, jovial....I hope he stays at LSU for a long, long time.
CLM blessed the transfer.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:36 pm to PBD4BAMA
This is going to make things very interesting.
If you are one or two players away you could fill spots
You also get to evaluate players in game situations
Teams that are already loaded will benefit greatly with the ability to pick up one or two more needed guys.
I'm glad this happened but I'd like to see it uniformed through the country. After early graduation guys used to stay and work on their masters while still eligible to play. I'd like to know if Peyton would have given Ole miss one year because he graduated in 3 years at UT.
I know one thing, Nick will use this to his advantage.
If you are one or two players away you could fill spots
You also get to evaluate players in game situations
Teams that are already loaded will benefit greatly with the ability to pick up one or two more needed guys.
I'm glad this happened but I'd like to see it uniformed through the country. After early graduation guys used to stay and work on their masters while still eligible to play. I'd like to know if Peyton would have given Ole miss one year because he graduated in 3 years at UT.
I know one thing, Nick will use this to his advantage.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:39 pm to PBD4BAMA
Open season on your grads fellas
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:39 pm to PBD4BAMA
When does Nick Chubb graduate?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:39 pm to 14&Counting
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Saban invoked the rule that is on the books. nothing more....and where should Saban's loyalty lie?
No he interpreted the rules in his favor. If he was right why did the SEC step in and grant Smiths release. If Smith wasn't a possible starter no one would care. That's the most f'd up thing about this.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:42 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Stephen Rivers transferred from LSU to Vandy on a graduate transfer. CLM blessed the transfer.
Nick gave Rick Clausen a free transfer from LSU. Then he came back and beat his former team. He also let Corey Grant go wherever. Which happened to be Auburn. he took some heat for that one. kinda think thats where he changed his stance.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:53 pm to IrrationalMeltdown
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No he interpreted the rules in his favor.
No he didn't. He just declined to waive the one year deferral as was his right.
Holy shite you people are amazing.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:00 pm to IrrationalMeltdown
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why did the SEC step in
They didn't. The SEC only got to consider the waiver after Bama gave Smith his release. If Saban really wanted to screw Smith over the SEC could do nothing about it.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:02 pm to TouchdownTony
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I'm glad this happened but I'd like to see it uniformed through the country. After early graduation guys used to stay and work on their masters while still eligible to play. I'd like to know if Peyton would have given Ole miss one year because he graduated in 3 years at UT.
First, this was an exception to the rule. The rule still exists. nothing has changed at this time.
Secondly, the rest of the country allows their graduates to go wherever they want. This was a SEC only rule, I believe.
Thirdly, the only players this will affect (As a whole) are players who were not getting, or do not anticipate getting a lot of playing time. If a kid graduates in three years and is starting for his team, he will, more than likely, stay with that team.
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I know one thing, Nick will use this to his advantage.
Again, nothing has changed. But if they DO change the rule, then every coach should take advantage of it. Don't they take advantage of everything already?
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