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re: Nick Saban on leaving Bama: "I Don't see it ever happening"
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:55 pm to BrerTiger
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:55 pm to BrerTiger
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I don't think Saban would have had the same kind of success at LSU had he stayed another 5 years as he's had at Bama for the last 5 years.
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Impossible to prove or disprove
^^^THIS^^^
His success at Bama does not mean success at l5u
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Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:56 pm to BrerTiger
When he got to Bama he was already NICK SABAN. When LSU hired him he was just a Big10 coach that was around .500 4/5 years with Sparty. I also think he had more to rebuild at LSU considering we were coming off a ridiculously down decade for the program. I also do think he got better in the NFL.
Bama doesn't have any more resources at their disposale than LSU does.
If there is a difference it's more of a putting winning first mentality at Alabama, so that could be a factor.
Hard to say though. I mean look at what Dantonio has done at MSU as compared to Saban. How do you reconsile that?
Bama doesn't have any more resources at their disposale than LSU does.
If there is a difference it's more of a putting winning first mentality at Alabama, so that could be a factor.
Hard to say though. I mean look at what Dantonio has done at MSU as compared to Saban. How do you reconsile that?
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:58 pm to Draconian Sanctions
He doesn't have to worry about the Saints or the Pelicans taking his thunder. In Alabama, he's always the guy, no matter what. 
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I mean look at what Dantonio has done at MSU as compared to Saban
So you're saying people don't get better at what they do and Coach Saban was at his best when he was at MSU? Got it.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:01 pm to elit4ce05
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So you're saying people don't get better at what they do and Coach Saban was at his best when he was at MSU? Got it.
That's not at all what I'm saying, if anything it's the opposite
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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When LSU hired him he was just a Big10 coach that was around .500 4/5 years with Sparty
When Coach Saban was hired by l5u, he was coming off a 9-2 season at msu which included wins over Notre Dame, ohio state, and Penn State. He took over in 1995 when they were coming off major sanctions from the ncaa and hadn't had a winning season in years.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Bama doesn't have any more resources at their disposale than LSU does.
I think they have a little something extra when it comes to landing recruits. It's an intangible that isn't something you can document. I know we like to believe we are equal in that regard but everything I've ever seen leads me to believe they have an advantage in that regard. Even more so with Saban for reasons you've already enumerated.
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Hard to say though. I mean look at what Dantonio has done at MSU as compared to Saban. How do you re insole that?
Sparty is actually a great example. Dantonio has made them very competitive. They now regularly compete for conference titles. Will they start regularly competing for national titles? That remains to be seen. But I wouldn't bet on it. Not with Ohio State back on track (they are the Bama of the Big Ten) and Michigan coming back (I guess they are similar to Tennessee historically).
Now -- to your point -- maybe with the right coach (which Saban could have been) LSU could establish itself as a true elite program that practically recruits itself. I don't think we're there. The potential is definitely there as *the* school in a state with such fertile recruiting. If Saban had stayed at LSU, we'll never know who Bama would have hired after Shula. Maybe they hire another not so great coach and LSU takes over for years to come. We're never going to know what would've happened.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:13 pm to Jrv2damac
He gonna pull a Paterno and coach until he's dead.
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:16 pm to Buttermilk Pancakes
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He gonna pull a Paterno and coach until he's dead.
I can't wait to see the Nick Saban Child Care Center on the Nike campus.
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Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:18 pm to BrerTiger
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They have a little something extra when it comes to landing recruits
I think the lack of pro sports does help, and they would not put up with what Les has been giving us the last few years. So yeah I can agree there is an intangible there. I think it's overstated by some though.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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It is pretty much the same. The only difference is that he has already given the NFL a shot. he never would have left LSU for another college and won't leave Alabama for another college either.
it's a little bit of a shame for him that it worked out the way it did, he could have been our Woody Hayes, our Bob Neyland, Knute Rockne, what have you, for the rest of history. At Alabama he will always be just another great coach and never will be Bear Bryant.
I get what you are saying. I don't disagree and I really don't see why it has so many of my Bama brethren rustled. The only point I might take issue with is the thought that he will never be viewed in the same light as Bryant. He won't be at Bama for 25 years, but he might make 15. If he does and wins another couple of national titles along the way he will be viewed as equal or greater.
As far as what he could have been at LSU, you are spot on and it would not have required the same level of success that he's had at Bama. We have Wallace Wade, Frank Thomas, Bear Bryant and Gene Stallings. Y'all don't. Had he stayed, there is no doubt he would have at least matched but almost certainly exceeded Miles and more importantly would not be at Bama, giving LSU a run matched only by Byrant's time ar Bama.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:28 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Nick Saban on leaving Bama: "I Don't see it ever happening"
Oh so he's saying he sees it happening.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I think the lack of pro sports does help, and they would not put up with what Les has been giving us the last few years. So yeah I can agree there is an intangible there. I think it's overstated by some though.
For sure, it's overstated by some.
And upon further reflection, had Saban stayed at LSU and Bama hired another not-so-great coach to replace Shula then LSU could have eroded that advantage away over time and maybe even flipped it.
But it's clear that's not going to happen in the current scenario with Saban at Bama and Miles at the helm. And Miles has done a damn good job of recruiting.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:44 pm to Patton
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FIFY
Made it better...thanks
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:44 pm to JustGetItRight
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The only point I might take issue with is the thought that he will never be viewed in the same light as Bryant. He won't be at Bama for 25 years, but he might make 15. If he does and wins another couple of national titles along the way he will be viewed as equal or greater.
Bryant last coached a game in 1982. So you would have to be in at least in your late 40's to have remembered anything from that era. Today's generation of Bama fans only know what they have read and seen about Bryant...they weren't actually there to witness it...just like people who were around in Bryant's heyday wouldn't have actually seen Wallace Wade.
Saban is a young 63. Bryant won back to back titles when he was older than Saban is now....so Saban has a lot of time left to cement his legacy on par with Bryant's although he won't coach at Bama as long as Bryant did. Saban absolutely can go down with a legacy on par with the Bear.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:46 pm to Tuscaloosa
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"I Don't see it ever happening"
That's because he's so fricking short, everything that happens flies right over his head....
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:47 pm to elit4ce05
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When Coach Saban was hired by l5u, he was coming off a 9-2 season at msu which included wins over Notre Dame, ohio state, and Penn State. He took over in 1995 when they were coming off major sanctions from the ncaa and hadn't had a winning season in years.
For some reason, posters on the rant love to leave context out of the equation.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:22 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Good Lord. Alabama was just coming off of major probation of 5 years with recruiting penalties and a ridiculous coaching carousel. Bama was the laughing stock of the SEC before Saban took over.
I also think he had more to rebuild at LSU considering we were coming off a ridiculously down decade for the program.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:28 pm to stout
Stahp 
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:34 pm to Tuscaloosa
I don't have a problem with Saban staying and retiring in Bama.I would just like to beat him before he hangs it up.
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