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re: Is Auburn an Elite Program?

Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

How is this not storied AND elite?

See National Championship, IMO
Posted by RMFTBama
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Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:48 pm to
There's a difference between the traditionally elite (i.e. the most prestigious programs historically) and the modern-day elite (i.e. the programs that have been really good in the last couple decades).

Traditionally elite programs (alphabetically listed):

-Alabama
-Michigan
-Nebraska
-Notre Dame
-Ohio State
-Oklahoma
-Texas
-USC

Borderline: Penn State, Tennessee


Modern-day elite programs (also alphabetical):

-Alabama
-Florida
-Florida State
-LSU
-Miami
-Michigan
-Nebraska
-Ohio State
-Oklahoma
-Texas
-USC


So to answer the original question, no, Auburn isn't an elite program. They are an elite team this year, similar to Oregon.

No flame intended, but Auburn has won 1 SEC championship since the league re-aligned back in 1992, and only 2 SEC West titles in that same time frame. They also have 1 BCS appearance in their history. Boise State has 2. Those aren't the traits of an elite program.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:48 pm to
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Oklahoma - I can't feel bad for a program just two hours north of Dallas.

Notre Dame - can still get into any catholic school kid's door.

Penn State - Pennsylvania is a very talent rich state. They have New Jersey and Maryland to siphon off of as well.

Ohio State - the state of Ohio is loaded. Plain and simple.


when it comes to talent the SOUTH>>>>>>>NORTH.

Don't really want to get into why though
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
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Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:49 pm to
to answer your question.....
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:50 pm to
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my point is you can steal recruits from other states and still win.


I'm not sure you have a point at all.
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:51 pm to
:racist:
Posted by kltiger
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
214 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:52 pm to
no
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

:racist:


how am i being racist? Black Americans make better athletes. The south has more black Americans then north. It's just the way it is.

Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:57 pm to
RACIST!!!
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:58 pm to
IMO this year (setting NCAA issues aside) they are whatever you thought Va Tech was in 1999
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33937 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

The elite programs are:
Oklahoma
USC
LSU
Florida

Ohio State
Alabama
Texas
Michigan
Nebraska (Maybe)


Ones that I disagree with being elite programs. They haven't had the long term success as the other top programs.

For me, the best of the bunch are:

Notre Dame
Alabama
USC
Oklahoma
Michigan
Ohio State
Texas
Nebraska

The borderline elite programs are:

Tennessee
Penn State

The programs that fall a little below the standards of being elite for a number of reasons are:

LSU
Miami
Georgia
Florida
Florida State

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 7:10 pm to
I'm not sure Texas fits on your list then

And the idea of including Texas and leaving off Southern Cal makes me kinda


JMO - all time best programs are Notre Dame, Southern Cal, and Alabama... over the last 50 years it's between southern cal and alabama

Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

JMO - all time best programs are Notre Dame, Southern Cal, and Alabama... over the last 50 years it's between southern cal and alabama

I'd say Oklahoma is up there.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33937 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 7:13 pm to
Look at my list again. I have USC on the list as an elite program. And as for Auburn, I have them on the next tier below LSU, UF, UGA, Florida State and Miami.
Posted by yamammasprofile
LSU bball will win 9 SEC games
Member since May 2010
6518 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 7:31 pm to
Ms. Garrison is a horrible poster.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 7:32 pm to
I think Michigan's tradition is vastly overrated by the overwhelming majority of CFB fans. If you take out what they did prior to 1905, they really don't look very special.

They're pretty much on par with Tennessee--one of the most consistent programs in CFB history, but not one known for winning national titles or winning the big game. Most of their reputation is based upon beating up on weak sisters.

It's a joke to say that Michigan has been an elite program on the level of Miami or FSU or Penn State or Florida or Notre Dame or Alabama over the last 30 years. They've just never been the best. NEVER.
Posted by yamammasprofile
LSU bball will win 9 SEC games
Member since May 2010
6518 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 7:34 pm to
Elite programs

Bama
LSU
Florida
Ohio State
Texas
Oklahoma
Posted by ole orange
Brentwood/Knoxville
Member since Aug 2008
3429 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 7:39 pm to
Tennessee will be a fixture on the list again as soon as they are back on the national scene.
Posted by McKeezy
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Aug 2010
3940 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 7:42 pm to
no.
but anyone who lists florida should go shoot themselves. AU is closer than florida
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 7:46 pm to
I don't know. I am of the opinion that having more SEC wins than any other program over the last 35 years or so qualifies a team as being elite. But that's just me. Maybe I should go shoot myself...
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