re: How would you rank the top 10 coaching destinations in the nation?

Posted by RB10

Member since Nov 2010

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Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:03 pm to MSUbulldogs03

Tier I:

Texas
Alabama
USC
tOSU
UGA
UF
FSU
LSU
Notre Dame
Oklahoma

Tier II:

Texas A&M
Michigan
Oregon
Miami
UCLA
Nebraska
Auburn
Arkansas
Tennessee

No particular order to these. Also, Texas A&M is on the verge of moving into tier I and Tennessee is on the verge of falling out of tier II IMO.

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Posted by GeorgeReymond

Buckhead

Member since Jan 2013

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Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:07 pm to WG_Dawg

& at the end of the day he still has a NC. He led the team to a position where they could capitalize off this 'luck'

Our alumni/fan contributions trump UGA's as well

This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 2:08 pm

Posted by sjmabry

Texas

Member since Aug 2013

18500 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:08 pm to texag7

quote:
exag7

quote:
Ohio State Alabama Florida USC Georgia Michigan Texas A&M Oklahoma Florida State Texas

, and you left out LSU, fool

Posted by Rhymenoceros

Atlanta, Georgia

Member since Nov 2012

4183 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:12 pm to Bama2018

quote:
Alabama, Texas, and USC are the highest pressure jobs but highest rewards

Saban has actually probably diminished the desirability of the Bama job - the next guy will likely have unattainable expectations and is set up for failure (even if he still wins a ton of games).

Posted by Ericvol2096

Charleston, SC

Member since May 2013

2588 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:39 pm to RedPants

I think ranking them in catagories then averaging those rankings is the best way to come up with a "top 10-20"

Tradition
1 - Notre Dame
2 - Michigan
3 - Alabama
4 - Oklahoma
5 - USC
6 - Ohio St
7 - Texas
8- Nebraska
9 - Tennessee
10 - Penn St.
11 - LSU
12- Georgia
13 - Auburn
14 - Florida St
15 - Florida

Recruiting Base
1. Georgia
2. Texas
3. Texas A&M
4. USC
5. UCLA
6. LSU
7. Ohio St
8. Miami
9. Florida
10. Florida St.
11. Alabama
12. Auburn
13. Tennessee
14. Clemson
15. Michigan
Facilities / Stadium
1. Alabama
2. Tennessee
3. Oregon
4. Texas A&M
5. Ohio State
6. Michigan
7. Penn St
8. LSU
8. Texas
9. Oklahoma
10. Nebraska
11. UCLA
12. Notre Dame
13. Georgia
14. Florida

Coaches Pay
1. Alabama
2. Michigan St
3. Oklahoma
4. A&M
5. Texas
6. Ohio St

7. LSU
8. Penn St
9. Iowa
10. TCU
11. South Carolina
12. Auburn
13. FSU
14. Georgia
15. UCLA

Football Total Revenue
1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. Michigan
4. Alabama
5. Ohio State
6. LSU
7. Oklahoma
8. Wisconsin
9. Florida
10. A&M
11. Oklahoma St
12. Penn St
13. Auburn
14. Tennessee
15. Minnesota

Total points
1. Alabama – 60
2. Texas – 56
3. OhioSt – 50
4. A&M – 43
5. Oklahoma – 41
6. Michigan – 38
7. LSU – 41
8. Oregon – 28
9. Tennessee – 26
10. Penn St – 25
11. Georgia – 24
12. USC – 23
13. Notre Dame – 19
14. UCLA – 17
15. UF – 16
16. Nebraska – 14
17. Michigan St - 14
18. Auburn – 14
19. FSU – 10
20. Wisconsin - 8
21. Iowa – 7
22. Miami - 7
23. TCU – 6
24. South Carolina – 5
25. Ok St - 5
26. Clemson – 3
27. Minnesota - 1

This post was edited on 6/6/15 at 7:44 am

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Posted by MetryTyger

Metro NOLA, LA

Member since Jan 2004

15601 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:47 pm to WG_Dawg

quote:
WG_Dawg
How would you rank the top 10 coaching destinations in the nation?
by WG_Dawg
quote:I'd have LSU at least in the Top 3 or 4

So between bama, USC, texas, florida, georgia, OSU, michigan, notre dame..who gets bumped for LSU?

In the post four posts above your reply post, I eloquently listed 12 reasons why LSU should be in the Top 3 or 4. They speak for themselves.
The only programs who come close to all 12 of those (esp. the first one - no in-state recruiting rivals) are Ohio State and Notre Dame. I'd put Texas and Bama up there too, and Fla.
If you don't agree with that, then I guess I'll be heartbroken....

Posted by WG_Dawg

Hoover

Member since Jun 2004

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Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:51 pm to MetryTyger

quote:
In the post four posts above your reply post, I eloquently listed 12 reasons why LSU should be in the Top 3 or 4. They speak for themselves.

And I responded to that post. Do you believe that LSU is one of only 4 schools that has in state talent, a nice stadium, good fan support, etc?

Posted by cardboardboxer

Member since Apr 2012

34330 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:51 pm to Ericvol2096

quote:
Facilities / Stadium
1. Alabama
2. Tennessee
3. Oregon
4. Texas A&M

You wish. We are at the top of this list now. Well either us or Oregon.

Posted by Warrior Poet

Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge

Member since Sep 2011

7956 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:58 pm to Buckeye06

They hired as big of a name as it gets. They're a top 10 and will always be.

Posted by Lord Randall Cunny

Member since Aug 2014

184 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:10 pm to Ericvol2096

Couldn't argue a whole lot with most of your post except for the one glaring omission under facilities/stadium. LSU is easily in the top 10 there (I would have them easily top 5). But anyway that would give us 8-10 more points which would put us at number 5 I believe. Sounds fair to me.

Posted by RB10

Member since Nov 2010

43823 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:16 pm to Ericvol2096

quote:
Facilities / Stadium
1. Alabama
2. Tennessee
3. Oregon
4. Texas A&M
5. Ohio State
6. Michigan
7. LSU
8. Penn St
9. Texas
10. Oklahoma
11. Nebraska
12. UCLA
13. Notre Dame
14. Georgia
15. Florida

FIFY

Posted by murfvol

Member since Apr 2015

137 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:21 pm to Ericvol2096

The easiest places to win are as follows.Proximity to talent and school resources are what matter.The best or worst coach would find it easier to win at the schools highest on the list.

1) USC
2) UCLA
3) Texas
4) A&M
5) Miami

6) Georgia (next doir to Atlanta and close to Charlotte)
7) Florida (not in a populous part of the state)
8) LSU
9) Maryland
10) Bama

Note some schools in the top 10 have stunk it up. Coaching matters more than anything.

Posted by Lsuchs

Member since Apr 2013

8073 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:30 pm to MSUbulldogs03

When speaking of recruiting base:

Louisiana
4 *****, 15 ****
-BCS level programs: (1)LSU
-Population: 4.6 million
-Team w most top 10 signed 2015: (7) LSU

Texas
5 *****, 39 ****
-BCS level programs: (5/6) Texas, A&M, TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech,
Houston* (pulling some recruits)
-Population: 27.6 million
- team w most top 10 signed 2015:
(2) A&M/Bama, (1)LSU/OM/UT/UCLA/Baylor/USC

Alabama
3 *****, 5 ****
-BCS level programs: (2) UA, AUB
-Population: 4.8 million
- Team w most top 10 signed 2015:
(5) Bama/AUB

The top 10 in La are as good as TX, CA, and FL. We just don't have sheer number of 4 stars. And we do as well as anyone at getting top 10 players from our state. Texas is a cluster frick the entire nation is raiding that place. A&M grabbed one more than we did in their top 10, and UT only got 1 as well.

For some reason Louisiana prospects and high schools are more loyal to LSU than any other states'. We lose some, but we have been pulling 5 stars out of Texas and Florida consistently for years. Hell half of OUs team is from Texas, everyone has their hand in that pot. Being the only team in the state with a decent "fence" around La and connections in TX and FL give me LSU all day.

Both Les miles and nick saban were the highest paid head coaches in the NCAA while at LSU at one time. LSU had the highest paid staff in the country the last few years before losing Chavis.

You think it'd be easier to win anywhere else?

This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 4:03 pm

Posted by ssgrice

Arizona

Member since Nov 2008

3058 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:46 pm to WG_Dawg

quote:
If the "next level" is a national title, true our current head coach has not won a national title as a head coach

There is no "IF". The next level "IS" a National Title. Something your team hasn't produced in the last 30+ years or last 3 coaches.

quote:
and your coach has only won at the "next level" by having the most lucky set of circumstances of any coach in the BCS era. Congrats.

Luckier than Bama in 2011-12?? (granted they were the best of the rest at selection time)
Don't get your a$$ beat by UT and you could have settled it on the field with LSU in the SECC game, but UGA always finds a way to F' Up a good season.

Posted by roadGator

Member since Feb 2009

140477 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:53 pm to murfvol

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6) Georgia (next doir to Atlanta and close to Charlotte)
7) Florida (not in a populous part of the state)

Someone has no idea about Florida geography

Posted by Arksulli

Fayetteville

Member since Aug 2014

25197 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:58 pm to RB10

quote:
Tier I:

Texas
Alabama
USC
tOSU
UGA
UF
FSU
LSU
Notre Dame
Oklahoma

Tier II:

Texas A&M
Michigan
Oregon
Miami
UCLA
Nebraska
Auburn
Arkansas
Tennessee

I can agree with that list. Though I think the Vols don't fall out of Tier 2.

Posted by Pettifogger

Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Member since Feb 2012

79221 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:00 pm to Rig

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UGA doesn't belong with the rest of those names in my opinion. I'd put Florida there and UGA in honorable mention

UGA belongs. Bigger school, more inherent resources, kept Richt around despite a lot of mediocrity at key times. Now, UGA should ultimately grow into a top 5 job, they're underachieving I think.

A&M should probably be a top 10 job eventually too.

Posted by Pettifogger

Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Member since Feb 2012

79221 posts

Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:02 pm to RB10

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Tier II:

Texas A&M
Michigan
Oregon
Miami
UCLA
Nebraska
Auburn
Arkansas
Tennessee

Miami, UCLA, Nebraska and Arkansas are pretty big reaches IMO. Only two are high profile programs, neither of which are in great positions right now. The other two have potential, but one of them is in fricking Arkansas.