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re: How concerned are Auburn fans?
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:31 am to joeyb147
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:31 am to joeyb147
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Changing up the criteria, huh?
YOU said Saban exposed him for being average. How can Tuberville control what happens with Saban's teams outside of one game a year?
But not surprising you're trying to back pedal by looking at your post history.
No beefcake. Put your simple mind in a different gear and think it deeper. The point was that AU fans beat that stat to death but the reality was that those wins were part of big years with big payoffs. What would you rather have, 3 wins and 1 national title, 2 conference titles or 5 wins and 1 conference title. Think big picture.
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:40 am to 4nmylifetime
so saban's success against other teams exposed tubbs? Not his direct success over tubs, but what he did ancilliary?
I personally have stopped caring, but do enjoy a good mind teaser. Tubbs is gone, he was a good coach for the most part, left us in a bit of a bind, we're reeling from it this year. Still a lot of football to be played this year.
I personally have stopped caring, but do enjoy a good mind teaser. Tubbs is gone, he was a good coach for the most part, left us in a bit of a bind, we're reeling from it this year. Still a lot of football to be played this year.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:40 am to 4nmylifetime
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Put your simple mind in a different gear and think it deeper. The point was that AU fans beat that stat to death but the reality was that those wins were part of big years with big payoffs. What would you rather have, 3 wins and 1 national title, 2 conference titles or 5 wins and 1 conference title. Think big picture.
What does this have to do with what you originally posted?
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Saban exposed Tubbs for what he was. An average coach,
Oh, nothing. Got it.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:45 am to 4nmylifetime
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Does Cadillac Williams (a lifelong BAMA fan)go to Auburn if BAMA is not facing sactions, or has Saban as the coach. BAMA being down helped Auburn in more ways than just head to head. The fact that you are unable to recognize this shows your unable to be objective.
Were Ronnie Brown and Brandon Jacobs lifelong Bama fans as well? You named 1 player that might have gone to Bama instead of Auburn without the sanctions and that is enough to prove to you that the only reason Auburn was any good is because of the trouble at Bama.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:50 am to joeyb147
Back to more current matters. What gives Auburn fans the impression that next year, bad techniques and habits on defense are all of a sudden going to magically dissappear. To be a legitimate contender you have to have 1 of 2 things. Cam Newton or a great defense. Now how is Auburn going to change 3 years of bad defensive fundamentals in one year. We're not talking schematic problems we're talking basic defensive techniques. What coach is going to come in in 1 year and fix 3 years of bad habits. Saban couldnt even do this his first year and BAMA's cuppard wasnt as bare as Auburns. Reality is a new D.Coor probably cant fix a junior or senior who has bad technique and cant play fundamental D. He can only start with his freshman and sophmores which means they are not competitive in the SEC until they are juniors and seniors. Alot farther down the road than next year or 2013.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:52 am to piggidyphish
Change of subject. How many points could a Nallsminger offense score on a Roof defense?
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:53 am to marshallcotiger
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Were Ronnie Brown and Brandon Jacobs lifelong Bama fans as well? You named 1 player that might have gone to Bama instead of Auburn without the sanctions and that is enough to prove to you that the only reason Auburn was any good is because of the trouble at Bama.
This from the guy with tin foil on his head. I guess that keeps all of the rational thoughts on the reality that is Auburn football out. Good news is it's only 3 to 4 years from now and you can take it off.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:54 am to 4nmylifetime
quote:Not true. A great offense and average D can get it done.
To be a legitimate contender you have to have 1 of 2 things. Cam Newton or a great defense.
quote:A good one. Also, how many of these guys have had 3 years of this coaching?
What coach is going to come in in 1 year and fix 3 years of bad habits.
quote:Auburn's cupboard is not bare (except at LB).
Saban couldnt even do this his first year and BAMA's cuppard wasnt as bare as Auburns.
quote:Thankfully, we don't have many of those.
Reality is a new D.Coor probably cant fix a junior or senior who has bad technique and cant play fundamental D.
quote:Pretty sure you are wrong, but only time will tell.
He can only start with his freshman and sophmores which means they are not competitive in the SEC until they are juniors and seniors. Alot farther down the road than next year or 2013.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:55 am to marshallcotiger
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Change of subject. How many points could a Nallsminger offense score on a Roof defense?
Oh heavens. That'd be two retards humping.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:58 am to 4nmylifetime
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I guess that keeps all of the rational thoughts on the reality that is Auburn football out.
such as realistic expectations about this year and not making definative statements about the demise of auburn football?
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:59 am to 4nmylifetime
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What gives Auburn fans the impression that next year, bad techniques and habits on defense are all of a sudden going to magically dissappear.
I don't think that it will happen personally. If there is not significant improvement in tackling fundamentals by the end of the year, then I think Roof needs to be gone. This is not a knee jerk reaction. Tackling has been poor since Roof got here.
ETA: I expect there to be growing pains with such a young defense on the field, but being ranked 117 overall is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:59 am to marshallcotiger
Ted Roof would say 17.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 12:00 pm to 4nmylifetime
quote:Your posts are full of objective, rational thoughts about the state and future of Auburn football.
I guess that keeps all of the rational thoughts on the reality that is Auburn football out.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 12:08 pm to 4nmylifetime
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This from the guy with tin foil on his head
Im pretty sure thats not him.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 12:11 pm to WDE24
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Reality is a new D.Coor probably cant fix a junior or senior who has bad technique and cant play fundamental D.
Thankfully, we don't have many of those.
Just a quick look at AL.com on AU's line up and I counted 10 projected starters for AU on defense that will be Juniors or Seniors next year. That is alot of experience coming back but the point is it's alot of bad experience coming back. Are this years sophomores really going to get any better technique wise under Roof? So this year is another waste as far as gaining proper experience and improvement. If AU doesnt find some freshmen and sophomores that are able to take some of those starting spots away and play with better fundamentals under a new D.Coor. I wouldnt look much improvement on D next year. If there are alot of freshmen and next years sophomores ready to play talent wise next year you now have to take into consideration their lack of experience. Those things considered AU is at least until 2013 before they have a great SEC defense.
I didnt check but I would bet that last years AU team is the only one to win a conference title with a defense ranked in the lower half (9th in the conference for AU last year) in modern history, so I have to disagree on "a great offense and average D can get it done." An exceptional offense and a once in a lifetime athlete (Cam Newton) can.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 12:39 pm to SwampTider
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Auburn looks like it may be irrelevent for many years to come.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 12:43 pm to 4nmylifetime
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so I have to disagree on "a great offense and average D can get it done." An exceptional offense and a once in a lifetime athlete (Cam Newton) can.
You would think that Cam lined up at center, hiked the ball to himself, laid the ball down, went and blocked for himself, picked the ball up after blocking, found himself open in the endzone, threw the ball, and ran after it and caught it himself in the endzone for a score. He was a huge reason that we won a lot of the close games, but to make such a blanket comment like he was the only reason is quite ridiculous.
On the concern part, I am in no way happy with the defense and it is an issue even with our youth. The lack of tackling and missing the lanes are what concerns me as it starts with coaching. Roof in my opinion is running out of time. No way we can stomach no improvement throughout the year.
Recruiting wise we have been good so... no, it will not be a three year curse as you imply. Also, the comments about Bama's troubles are why we were so good during the Tuberville years are ignorant as well. Typical Bama statement saying that our success is due to them. You apparently have been watching to many Fox Sports replays and not the seasons over his tenure.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 1:33 pm to marshallcotiger
quote:That's a trick question. Everyone knows that it would cause a black hole of suck and we would all be sucked into another dimension where Bama fans are humble, educated fans that stick with their team thru thick and thin...and Auburn fans are a bunch of goat humping alcoholic inbred, meth mouth rednecks that don't know how to find Auburn on a map and attribute all of their self worth to their team's past success that occured before they were born.
Change of subject. How many points could a Nallsminger offense score on a Roof defense?
Posted on 9/19/11 at 1:36 pm to ScoopAndScore
They will be back next year. Bama and lsu will be up there but they will be back if they continue to pull top recruits.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 1:37 pm to 4nmylifetime
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And you can get away with that if BAMA is weakened by sanctions. As soon as BAMA got back to strength with quality coaching, Tubbs was exposed
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4nmylifet
You can't have it both ways...Bama was sanctioned for cheating..meaning, you either have to ignore the cheating and resulting weakening because of sanctions OR you have to acknowledge them both. Clearly, you think that Bama should get all the accolades in the world for all of their success while cheating, but should also be able to point at other teams' success during the period where Bama was being punished for said cheating and say that it isn't legit.
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