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re: Dont understand how Bruce Pearl automatically makes Auburn better...

Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:37 am to
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:37 am to
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It only takes one recruiting class to be competitive in the sec


Tell that to Lsu.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:38 am to
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The number 5 and 6 teams were closer to getting in than the number 3, conference standings mean nothing

exactly.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:38 am to
I agree to an extent, although it would have to be an ELITE class.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:39 am to
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It only takes one recruiting class to be competitive in the sec

LSU says hi
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:39 am to
Yeah Hogwall but UGA should've been in

If AU coached by Pearl in 2 yrs is 3rd in the SEC with his OOC sched he will likely set up, he will make the Tourney

ETA: I also agree that NCAA will remove the 4 months for "time served" it'd be stupid not to
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 10:41 am
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:41 am to
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Yeah Hogwall but UGA should've been in


No they shouldn't have. They are 19-13.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:43 am to
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Yeah Hogwall but UGA should've been in

based on what? the SEC is awful, and UGA's OOC record was not good. Their RPI was 76. No they shouldn't have been in. you can't go 6-6 with a weak OOC schedule and expect to make the ncaa tournament in the sec
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:44 am to
Ok damn I need to keep up with bball better (this is the 1st yr in a long time I honestly didn't hardly keep up at all)
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 10:44 am
Posted by Aujb
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:45 am to
Lsu was competitive in the sec this year and made the nit, with how good of a coach pearl is he can do that in year one if he brings in a top 30 class which ill admit is unlikely
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:46 am to
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I agree to an extent, although it would have to be an ELITE class.



It takes a class McDonald's AAs like Kentucky has gotten.

Other wise it is a 3-5 year road for all other programs in the SEC.

Recruiting rankings don't mean jack in basketball, quantity will rank higher than quality, if they are not playing in the McD AA game they are not elite ready to contribute blue chip recruits.

Since 1977 Auburn has signed 2 McD AAs, Frank Ford in 1983, and Korvotney Barber in 05.

For other SEC schools:

Kentucky - 44
Florida - 18
LSU - 15
Arkansas - 12
Alabama - 10
Georgia - 9
Tennessee - 7
Missouri - 5
Carolina - 3
aTm - 2
Vandy - 1
Posted by Aujb
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:50 am to
Being on the same level as Kentucky is not what I meant by competitive I meant finish in the top 5 of the conference standings and be seeded in the top half of the NIT
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:54 am to
quote:

It takes a class McDonald's AAs like Kentucky has gotten.

Other wise it is a 3-5 year road for all other programs in the SEC.

Recruiting rankings don't mean jack in basketball, quantity will rank higher than quality, if they are not playing in the McD AA game they are not elite ready to contribute blue chip recruits.

Since 1977 Auburn has signed 2 McD AAs, Frank Ford in 1983, and Korvotney Barber in 05.

For other SEC schools:

Kentucky - 44
Florida - 18
LSU - 15
Arkansas - 12
Alabama - 10
Georgia - 9
Tennessee - 7
Missouri - 5
Carolina - 3
aTm - 2
Vandy - 1

so Bruce Pearl had the success he did at Tennessee with two McDonald's AA? Scotty Hopson was the first he ever signed (was extremely overrated coming out of HS), and he coached Tobais Harris for one season. I don't think he'll have quite the immediate success he did at UT, but it's not going to take as long as you think.

btw, what's your definition of competitive?
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 10:56 am
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:05 am to
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so Bruce Pearl had the success he did at Tennessee with two McDonald's AA? Scotty Hopson was the first he ever signed (was extremely overrated coming out of HS), and he coached Tobais Harris for one season. I don't think he'll have quite the immediate success he did at UT, but it's not going to take as long as you think.


He inherited a good core group of players at Tennessee, he will not have that at Auburn this season.

quote:

btw, what's your definition of competitive?



A team that does not "drag the conference down", gets things done in the OOC competes for a spot in the NCAA tournament.

That isn't something that will be fully completed this season or likely next for Auburn, by year 3 you will see the direction their program will be heading under Pearl (or any coach).
Posted by Pavoloco83
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:09 am to
I think it will take at least two seasons. Auburn doesnt have the talent right now. But Pearl will put a winner on the floor that we have not had in YEARS.

So there is excitement on the plains.
Posted by thirdlawson
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:00 pm to
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I am curious as to why people think that Bruce Pearl will be immediately so successful at Auburn, and that they will all the sudden contend for Championships?


2 Things:

Atlanta, GA and Memphis, TN
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Memphis, TN


During his time at TN. Bruce Pearl signed zero elite players out of Memphis.

He got JP Prince on a transfer, that's it.

The good news is he doesn't have to. There's plenty of other talent in America. If you're not one of; UNC, Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, Florida, you're not stealing a Memphis kid from Memphis. And it's an uphill battle even for those elite programs.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 12:09 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:30 pm to
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Memphis, TN


Good luck with that...
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:31 pm to
We need to focus on Atlanta.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:31 pm to
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OK I am sick of Pearl threads. Lets talk about something new. How about HUNH?


That or Schedules
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:32 pm to
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We need to focus on Atlanta.



For all the bitching about Under Armor by your fans, I would think they would know Memphis is a town where AAU and HS coaches do steer players to or away from certain programs...
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