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re: Does Dak really scare anyone?
Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:37 pm to skirpnasty
Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:37 pm to skirpnasty
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Still less than 16.
quote:wat?
You can't claim Dak was the starter and then use the opposite logic to claim Jameon Lewis was a starter this season.
2014 SENIOR SEASON: Played in 10 games with nine starts
2013 JUNIOR SEASON: Turned in one of the most prolific receiving seasons in school history ... Played in all 13 contests with 12 starts ... Recorded the third most all-purpose yards in school history with 1,537 ... Finished with 64 receptions for 923 yards and five receiving scores ... The 64 receptions were second in school history while the 923 yards were fourth in MSU annals ... Completed three-of-three passes on the year with all three being touchdowns ... Ranked sixth in the SEC in receiving yards per game (71.0) and fifth in the league in receptions per contest (4.9) ... The most outstanding offensive player of the Liberty Bowl after accounting for an MSU and Liberty Bowl record 220 receiving yards on nine catches ... Racked up 267 all-purpose yards against Rice in the bowl, good for fourth-most in MSU single-game history ... Made first career start against Oklahoma State (8/31) and paced the squad with 148 all-purpose yards ... Scored first touchdown of the year versus Alcorn State (9/7), hauling in a 31-yard pass from starting quarterback Dak Prescott in the second quarter ... Rushed for second career touchdown at Auburn (9/14) and first since collegiate debut against Memphis on Sept. 1, 2011 ... Threw first career touchdown pass in the second quarter against Troy (9/21), hooking up with Prescott for a 36-yard score ... Against LSU (10/5), finished with 201 all-purpose yards, the fifth most in a game by a Bulldog during an SEC contest in the Dan Mullen era ... Registered seven catches versus the Tigers for 111 receiving yards ... Logged seven catches at South Carolina (11/2), making five grabs for 33 yards in the opening half ... Threw third touchdown pass of the year at Texas A&M (11/9) ... Caught the game-tying touchdown pass at Arkansas (11/23) with 13:35 remaining in the fourth quarter ... Played a key role in the win against Ole Miss (11/28), catching four passes for 47 yards in the fourth quarter and overtime.
What other shite do you plan on slinging against the wall to try and crawfish your way out of this?
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 7:40 pm
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:45 pm to joeyb147
Tyler Russell started in every single game he was healthy to do so in. When both were healthy, he got the nod. Russell was Mullen's starter in 2013.
The only starts Dak got prior to the Bama game, all 6, were in games that Russell didn't play in at all. The other games Russell started, even when Dak was healthy. Russell's season was basically over at that point, with exception to the Arkansas game, where he played his arse off hurt and ended up severely injuring his shoulder.
Please do go look at Jameon's game stats last year.
The only starts Dak got prior to the Bama game, all 6, were in games that Russell didn't play in at all. The other games Russell started, even when Dak was healthy. Russell's season was basically over at that point, with exception to the Arkansas game, where he played his arse off hurt and ended up severely injuring his shoulder.
Please do go look at Jameon's game stats last year.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:51 pm to skirpnasty
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Tyler Russell started in every single game he was healthy to do so in.
Yeah, like LSU & UK. Where he played in each one and didn't start one of them.
Dig that hole deeper slick.
quote:There's no way you're actually a state fan when you get so much so wrong.
all 6, were in games that Russell didn't play in at all. The other games Russell started, even when Dak was healthy.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:01 pm to joeyb147
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Yeah, like LSU & UK. Where he played in each one and didn't start one of them. Dig that hole deeper slick.
No, Dak started 6 games prior to Bama. Literally not possible for him to have started both of those games through week 12 in the season Seeing as Russell had only played in 5 games. Russell was hurt damn near the entire year, starting against OK State, then missed the next 4, but it nagged him until he eventually got too banged up to play.
And Jameon Lewis had a leg injury and his brother was murdered last season. Go look at the guys stats, I don't think he finished in the top 5 in receptions. You're saying Russell wasn't a starter because he was injured but Jameon was also injured and yet he is?
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:21 pm to skirpnasty
quote:WTF are you rambling on about?
No, Dak started 6 games prior to Bama. Literally not possible for him to have started both of those games through week 12 in the season Seeing as Russell had only played in 5 games. Russell was hurt damn near the entire year, starting against OK State, then missed the next 4, but it nagged him until he eventually got too banged up to play.
Yes, Dak started 6 games prior to bama. Good job. Alcorn, AU, Troy, LSU, UK, USC.
Those are facts.
Tyler Russell played against UK and LSU. Those are facts. Russell played in 7 games genius. Not 5.
No matter how much you wanna put your fingers in your ears and cry that it isn't true, it is.
quote:spin spin spin
And Jameon Lewis had a leg injury and his brother was murdered last season. Go look at the guys stats, I don't think he finished in the top 5 in receptions. You're saying Russell wasn't a starter because he was injured but Jameon was also injured and yet he is?
Lewis was a returning starter. Started 9 games in 2014 too.
Dak was a returning starter. Started 7 games in 2013.
Stats have nothing to do with returning starters. Is this really that complicated for you?
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:27 pm to joeyb147
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Stats have nothing to do with returning starters. Is this really that complicated for you?
State fans don't look at it in terms of "starters" and "backups". In State's system they're called "good players" and "even better players," respectively.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:29 pm to joeyb147
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This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:30 pm to TheJones
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Aaron Murray or Zach Mettenberger
Was referring to them at the college level and don't think Murray has played an important down yet.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:31 pm to ATLdawg25
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State fans don't look at it in terms of "starters" and "backups". In State's system they're called "good players" and "even better players," respectively.
I'm guessing the "even better players" are the ones that didnt start the previous year?
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:32 pm to skirpnasty
quote:No shite.
You are ignoring the fact that Russell didn't play against USC or Alcorn.
quote:Are you mentally retarded?
which means that Dak didn't start against UK and LSU.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:40 pm to joeyb147
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I'm guessing the "even better players" are the ones that didnt start the previous year?
What part about Mullen almost always only starting Juniors and Seniors can't you grasp? Or are you actually trying to argue that Fred Brown, Chris Jones, and Will Redmond weren't "better players" than the guys in front of them? Because they just are, that is a fact.
Look at snaps played, look at who was in when the game was on the line. You know who batted down Marshall's ball and caused the INT that put the nail in your coffin last season? Chris Jones. Starter is an empty title in a lot of these cases, Jameon Lewis being a prime example.
The funny thing here is an Auburn fan thinking it's absurd for us to say that a preseason all American is a better player than the guy before him. Yet your QB has less experience than probably 50 guys on our roster, and you fully expect him to be better than his predecessor. I'm missing how it's ok for you to have those expectations, but absurd for us to expect guys with significant playing time to actually produce.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:07 pm to joeyb147
I don't understand.... how does an Auburn fan know who on Mississippi State is better player when he is a senior... those who were seniors last year or those who are seniors this year?
The point seems to be that MS recruits players that will stay in the program four or five years... they do not lose key players to the NFL and then have to generate new team continuity.
The State offensive line have been together four full years, eating together, living together, practicing together. All were at least 3 stars coming out of high school and now are fourth or fifth year players...no breaks in service... a unit all with the same age and experience, old and lots.
I worry about such things and maybe Auburn fans should too instead of being jerks on a chat board. It is rather inane to tell another team that replaces starters every year about how they cannot replace starters. Better to study those replacements carefully and see how they match up with your team.
But that supposes some desire to actually evaluate football.
The point seems to be that MS recruits players that will stay in the program four or five years... they do not lose key players to the NFL and then have to generate new team continuity.
The State offensive line have been together four full years, eating together, living together, practicing together. All were at least 3 stars coming out of high school and now are fourth or fifth year players...no breaks in service... a unit all with the same age and experience, old and lots.
I worry about such things and maybe Auburn fans should too instead of being jerks on a chat board. It is rather inane to tell another team that replaces starters every year about how they cannot replace starters. Better to study those replacements carefully and see how they match up with your team.
But that supposes some desire to actually evaluate football.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 8/20/15 at 10:06 pm to Jacknola
Way too logical. The cool thing for the kids to do here is jump in a thread and sling shite like a bunch of monkeys. And we have lots and lots of monkeys here.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 10:47 pm to ATLdawg25
They are shite A and shite B defense.
Get it right
Get it right
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:49 am to skirpnasty
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The funny thing here is an Auburn fan thinking it's absurd for us to say that a preseason all American is a better player than the guy before him
How is it that MSU fans hassle Ole MIss fans for preseason hype but love to pull that shite to hype up Chris Jones?
You don't have to answer that.....
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:29 am to Mizzou to my Lou
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I think he is good, but I really think he benefits from everyone else being mediocre at the QB position. Would gladly take an Aaron Murray or Zach Mettenberger over him.
On the one hand he's a poor man's Tebow/Cam on the other hand he plays with MSU level talent so maybe he's actually pretty good and is carrying those guys. I don't think a traditional pocket passer like Murray or Mett would look good with MSU's overall talent level- what did Cutler do at Vandy?
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