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re: Dave Aranda is the *3rd best coach in the SEC, head coaches included
Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:55 pm to mwade91383
Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:55 pm to mwade91383
Every defense takes a step back when their HC converts to a spread. It happened to Saban. This is a dynamic I am interested in watching this year with LSU.
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:55 pm to thatdude1985
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that's a good stat bro.
You're right. Etling averaged 14.5 yards per completion against the best pass D in the conference.
Clearly, he's elite.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:56 pm to RB10
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Yards per completion
Aranda is overrated beacause Sean White threw for less than 300 yards and 0 touchdowns in a game that his team scored 18 pts.
It's science
Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:56 pm to mwade91383
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Mullen is a good coach, would you take him over DA if you had to build a team from scratch? I wouldn't. Look what DA did at Wisc, talk about doing more w less.
Yes.
In a heartbeat.
What Mullen has done in Starkville is nothing short of remarkable.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:57 pm to AUCE05
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Every defense takes a step back when their HC converts to a spread. It happened to Saban. This is a dynamic I am interested in watching this year with LSU.
That's a good point and something that will be interesting to watch next year.
I think Alabama's step back had more to do with other teams running the spread, but Alabama's offense speeding up definitely put the defense in a tougher spot. That will be a big change for LSU this year compared to their last decade.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:58 pm to msu202020
quote:Good question.
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I'm one of those that think Aranda has the potential to be the next elite coach, btw.
Then why wouldn't you hire him over Coach O?
I would have, and given him 2-3 years of reduced expectations (get 8+ wins and to a bowl), and let him grow into it. By year 3, I'd hope and expect to contend for the West.
With O, it's all skewed. You basically have to hold him to the same expectations as Miles, while at the same time coming to grips with the fact that he's never had one full season as good as ANY of Miles' at LSU. And we don't know if he can run a program over time either; in fact the evidence thus far is that he hasn't been able to.
I want LSU to be a great program, and win at the highest levels. I'm ok with the fact that Miles was short-timing it while coasting into retirement, and we pulled the plug on him... but I just get the sense that we're following the Tennessee post-Fulmer model
I sure as hell hope I'm wrong
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:01 pm to AshLSU
quote:Not a team player, huh?
Aranda didn't lose any game last year.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That's a good point and something that will be interesting to watch next year.
I think Alabama's step back had more to do with other teams running the spread, but Alabama's offense speeding up definitely put the defense in a tougher spot. That will be a big change for LSU this year compared to their last decade.
I don't think Canada runs HUNH and his "spread" is much like Auburn's. It still emphasizes running the ball.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
It is a good baseline.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:20 pm to Scoob
I would've hired him over O too.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:22 pm to steve123
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You mean "kept Auburn out of the end zone on their home field?
Moral Victory U!
or
Victoire morale U!
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:22 pm to mwade91383
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I would've hired him over O too.
Beware giving successful DCs with no HC experience HC jobs at a top 10 school
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:23 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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Beware giving successful DCs with no HC experience HC jobs at a top 10 school
Absolutely. Else you get stuck with a Mike Dubose or Ed Orgeron.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:25 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
For sure, Fisher or Herman would've been better choices. But that didn't work out and you have to make the best of what you're left with. In this case, I think its DA. I don't think O brings much to the table.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:28 pm to AuburnTigers
What he did in year 1
And florida. At home. After they forced it to be a home game.
Oh, and Bama. Again.
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lost to Auburn
And florida. At home. After they forced it to be a home game.
Oh, and Bama. Again.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:36 pm to DoubleDown
You think LSUs D is why they lost those games??? I'd love to hear your reasoning....
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:37 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Moral Victory U! or Victoire morale U!
Not sure where you're going with this. Didn't I concede in my post that Auburn won the game? Please go re-read it. No moral victories here. Ironspuppet's original post seemed to suggest that because LSU lost the game to Auburn, that reflected poorly on Aranda's ability. My position was simply that he kept a pretty high-powered offense out of the end zone on their own home field. Please explain how that loss reflects poorly on Aranda.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:38 pm to mwade91383
quote:He brings experience on what not to do as a HC in the SEC. He brings energy, a ton of recruiting experience and he hired a solid staff.
I don't think O brings much to the table.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:40 pm to RT1941
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He brings experience on what not to do as a HC in the SEC
This is what LSU has to settle with, and you criticize me for wanting to take a chance on an unknown????
Posted on 8/3/17 at 2:57 pm to mwade91383
quote:If we're not hiring Fisher, I think you look at lots of people. Herman is basically Aranda 2 years later (possibly), or if you prefer, Sumlin 5 years ago. But he was at least interesting in terms of potential.
For sure, Fisher or Herman would've been better choices. But that didn't work out and you have to make the best of what you're left with. In this case, I think its DA. I don't think O brings much to the table.
Chip Kelly seemed to be out there, if you wanted to poney up the cash (and god knows the SEC teams are making it).
Stepping down a level, you had Fedora at UNC, Mullen at MSU, and a nice crop of mid-majors who at least ran programs and won.
At the coordinator level, I think Aranda was up there, as well as some others. I honestly think Miles told him to come here as DC for a couple seasons and then he'd retire, and the job would likely be his. Miles was within a year of reaching 150 wins overall, of becoming the alltime win leader at LSU, and already had the career % at LSU. And he's 63 and his kids are now all in college I think (nope, still one home, youngest daughter. My bad).
Point being, there weren't many more milestones he could reach, that wouldn't take him more than 2 years at most.
And with 2 years as DC, Aranda would definitely had been in place long enough to transition to HC.
I still don't see what O brings, other than risk and taking the LSU job off the market for a few seasons.
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