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re: Contenders/Pretenders SEC baseball going to week 4
Posted on 4/1/13 at 2:15 pm to therick711
Posted on 4/1/13 at 2:15 pm to therick711
Did UK not end the year on the skids? Also, they were getting beaten it was a concern for them to host I remember.
They won most of their OOC games, right? It was the end of the conference schedule that did them in
They won most of their OOC games, right? It was the end of the conference schedule that did them in
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 2:16 pm to Drewbie
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That's not an untrue statement, but you are emphasizing OOC way more than the selection committee does.
I didn't indicate any emphasis as to my point. A team's OOC is relevant to wheter or not it is a national seed. Why is this controversial?
So change your post to "That's not an untrue statment."
This post was edited on 4/1/13 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 4/1/13 at 2:17 pm to Hawgeye
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Did UK not end the year on the skids? Also, they were getting beaten it was a concern for them to host I remember.
They won most of their OOC games, right? It was the end of the conference schedule that did them in
Repeat after me:
A team's ENTIRE resume is relevant to whether or not it gets a national seed.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 2:20 pm to Drewbie
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you are emphasizing OOC way more than the selection committee does
The selection committee emphasizes something different every year. It is never the same. One year it will be RPI, another year it will be whether you made your conference tourney, another year it will be OOC schedule. Bottom line, it changes every year, because the committee is constantly changing. They never emphasize the same thing year after year.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 2:23 pm to bubbz
Also, without looking it up. Name two teams that Kentucky played OOC last year. Then go and look at their sked LINK and you point out to me any impact wins they had in their OOC. I feel like many posters are using UK to make a non sequitur argument and don't even know who they played OOC. If you see an OOC gem of a victory there that should have had an overriding impact, let me know.
When I did that exercise, I remembered like Murray State and Illinois-Chicago.
When I did that exercise, I remembered like Murray State and Illinois-Chicago.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 2:23 pm to therick711
That's just not the case every year.
If you are whipping arse in our conference, that garners more attention and holds more weight than OOC period. Did LSU not beat Cal State Fullerton the year you all were snubbed from the tourney?
If you are whipping arse in our conference, that garners more attention and holds more weight than OOC period. Did LSU not beat Cal State Fullerton the year you all were snubbed from the tourney?
Posted on 4/1/13 at 2:25 pm to Hawgeye
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holds more weight than OOC period
I'm again isolating your issue. When did I ever say weight? Who exactly are you arguing with? If it is me, assume your premise is true. How does that attack the conclusion that "a team's entire resume is relevant to whether a team gets a national seed."
Posted on 4/1/13 at 4:59 pm to bubbz
quote:They have never emphasized OOC schedule. That's why there are so few marquee matchups OOC. There's no reward in scheduling a hard OOC schedule. Thus the reason no one does it.
another year it will be OOC schedule
Posted on 4/1/13 at 5:51 pm to Drewbie
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They have never emphasized OOC schedule. That's why there are so few marquee matchups OOC. There's no reward in scheduling a hard OOC schedule. Thus the reason no one does it.
Oh they most certainly have...I can think of a couple times LSU has been doc'd for lack of non conference schedule.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 6:21 pm to bubbz
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The selection committee emphasizes something different every year. It is never the same. One year it will be RPI, another year it will be whether you made your conference tourney, another year it will be OOC schedule. Bottom line, it changes every year, because the committee is constantly changing. They never emphasize the same thing year after year.
Exactly. This is what makes the baseball selection process such inconsistent bullshite.
The past couple years, the emphasis seems to have been "screw the SEC for dominating sports again this year" above all else.
- UK should have hosted over Miami last year. It's bullshite the ACC got 5 while the SEC got 3. That change would have leveled it out. Outside of UK and ARKY(who were skipped over for aTm and Rice), they went directly by RPI @ selection date last year.
- The previous year, they ignore the shite out of RPI -- and leave LSU out altogether with an RPI of TWENTY fricking THREE. Host sites follow Boyd ISR that year.
- In 2010, Vandy gets hosed on a host site with an RPI of #11. Alabama gets hosed with an RPI of #14. Outside of those two, they go directly by RPI exactly like they did in 2012. SEC already had 4 hosts, so it's reasonable they'd have to leave someone out.
- In 2009, they basically went by league finishes. Ignored RPI almost altogether. Virginia got sent to fricking UC IRVINE for regionals with an RPI of #7. Should have been a national seed -- and instead got Stephen fricking Strasburg and San Diego St in game 1. Of course, they made a run to Omaha from the road -- showing the selection committee how ridiculous the snub was. Other snubs? RPI #11 Miami and #12 Arky. They really screwed the ACC in general that year even though they did get 4 host sites to the SEC's 3...
This post was edited on 4/1/13 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 4/1/13 at 6:28 pm to Hawgeye
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Winning one series does not a season make.
Ole Miss has looked terrible since winning the 13 inning game the last Sunday of the Arkansas series.
Oh, so you stink up the first half of season and win a series versus State and Arky are now "contenders"???..LMAO
Yea, that 13 inning game doesn't count. Everyone knows only the first 9 mean something. And would also like to throw in the fact that I believe all of our runs that day were unearned, which means Arky "really won" the game.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 6:29 pm to Hawgeye
Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:28 am to Hawgeye
Too early 
Posted on 4/2/13 at 12:16 pm to Hawgeye
State's previous SEC opponents (LSU, UK, Ark) are 20-7,
Arkansas' previous SEC opponents (OM, USC, MSU) are 12-15.
State so far has had a much tougher SEC slate than Arkansas, and probably the 2nd toughest in the conference (Auburn's opp are 23-4).
Arkansas' previous SEC opponents (OM, USC, MSU) are 12-15.
State so far has had a much tougher SEC slate than Arkansas, and probably the 2nd toughest in the conference (Auburn's opp are 23-4).
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 12:17 pm
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