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re: Bruce Feldman tweets "Will Muschamp deal to Auburn getting closer"
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:42 am to jrljr
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:42 am to jrljr
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FYI: 1 play < Multiple plays
Which is what the poster you "attempted" to disprove said. Thanks for playing along however!
Amari Cooper had 10 catches for 201 yards and 3 touchdowns against Florida, including one in which nobody was within the TV viewing screen of covering him.
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:43 am to MrAUTigers
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At Auburn, it's about getting a DC that can make stops happen, period. Our D was gashed game after game. Auburn is not lacking in talent to that extent. There were holes in Johnson's D that were painfully obvious. People talk about Gus running a gimmicky O. The truth is, Ellis Johnson runs a gimmicky D.
Yea, that is true.
At this point my definition of a really good defense is
- shut down bad offenses
- shut down decent offenses
- stop good offenses
- contain elite offenses to field goals and situationally make plays
I hate it, but that's how it is these days. I mean look at all the advanced stats. Even after the Auburn game Alabama's defense is still a top 5 unit. It's just how the game works now.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:43 am to MrAUTigers
It just seemed to be a very poorly run defense at times. And those penalties...
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
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the mark of a good defense (against elite offenses) is getting stops in the red zone and basically holding momentum for a quarter or two while your offense goes on a run
EGGGGGGGGzactly.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:43 am to jrljr
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FYI: 1 play < Multiple plays Which is what the poster you "attempted" to disprove said. Thanks for playing along however!
Our wide receivers were running around open the entire game. Muschamp's defense was totally lost.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:45 am to MrAUTigers
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People talk about Gus running a gimmicky O. The truth is, Ellis Johnson runs a gimmicky D.
Since Gus has been a college coach, HC or OC, what is the highest ranked D he has had?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:46 am to Lg
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Since Gus has been a college coach, HC or OC, what is the highest ranked D he has had?
I'm not real sure. Who has the #1 ranked D this season?
psttttt Chad Morris runs Gus' O to a T.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 9:48 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:47 am to Lg
Correlation and causation issues you have
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:48 am to MrAUTigers
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I'm not real sure. Who has the #1 ranked D this season?
I don't know why, but every defense that has been associated with a team with Gus' offense has given up 5+ yards a play. Maybe it's just circumstantial, but Johnson and Van Gorder were considered pretty dang good hires at the time. Roof not so much.
Maybe it's just the guys or the schemes or a combination of all of them and has nothing to do with the offense or the way he runs the program, but if this next one doesn't work out then it's pretty clearly him (in some capacity).
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:48 am to MrAUTigers
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I'm not real sure. Who has the #1 ranked D this season?
I'm not sure, I'm trying to correlate something. You're an AU fan, I thought you might know.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:49 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Correlation and causation issues you have
It's possible that is true, but the sample size is now at 6-7 years and every defense he has had has given up 5+ yards per play (which is a better metric than total yards because the D is going to play more plays with an O like Gus').
It could just be circumstance and the next few years that could shift.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:50 am to Lg
A scoring defense that was mid 40s and we went to NC games those years. This year it's around 70, I believe. I don't care about yards. Points are what matter.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:50 am to Lg
Clemson has the #1 rated D.
Chad Morris is Clemson's OC.
Chad Morris runs a clone of Gus' O.
The philosophy of the O obviously has no bearing on the success of the D.
Chad Morris is Clemson's OC.
Chad Morris runs a clone of Gus' O.
The philosophy of the O obviously has no bearing on the success of the D.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:53 am to memphisplaya
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He's a solid defensive football coach. So is Ellis Johnson, though. Gus's offense is always going to stress his defense. That's just the reality of playing that style.
The problem with that is Auburn thought the same thing when he was hired. After further evaluation he only fielded 1 defense at South Carolina that was truly worth a shite. His defenses have been plain mediocre (his total defense rank averaged in the 50s/60s) for a long time. He was an assistant for Bama back in the 80s (?) but with the offensive production we're seeing today his style of defense simply isn't going to cut it.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:54 am to MrAUTigers
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The philosophy of the O obviously has no bearing on the success of the D.
Has nothing to do with the philosophy of the O. I think it has more to do with the practicing against it. And before anyone points it out, I know AU has a scout team.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:54 am to MrAUTigers
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Clemson has the #1 rated D. Chad Morris is Clemson's OC. Chad Morris runs a clone of Gus' O. The philosophy of the O obviously has no bearing on the success of the D.
Or you could equate it to their offense being worse.
Year, D YPP, O YPP
2014 - #1, #79
2013 - #23, #23
2012 - #69, #24
2011 - #71, #40
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
Clemson
Year, D YPP Rank, Offensive Plays Per Game Rank
2014 - #1, #27
2013 - #23, #13
2012 - #69, #7
2011 - #71, #2
Each year their defense got better and each year they dropped in average number of plays on offense nationally.
Year, D YPP Rank, Offensive Plays Per Game Rank
2014 - #1, #27
2013 - #23, #13
2012 - #69, #7
2011 - #71, #2
Each year their defense got better and each year they dropped in average number of plays on offense nationally.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:00 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Clemson Year, D YPP Rank, Offensive Plays Per Game Rank 2014 - #1, #27 2013 - #23, #13 2012 - #69, #7 2011 - #71, #2 Each year their defense got better and each year they dropped in average number of plays on offense nationally.
And I believe AU is #57 in offensive plays per game. Much lower than Clemson.
It isn't the O. It is problems with the D for us. Lots of them.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:00 am to SummerOfGeorge
Auburn ranked in the middle of the pack, nationally, as far as plays run a game. bama averaged more O plays this year than Auburn did. With a few weeks to go in the season, Arky was averaging more O plays run a game than Auburn was, and may have finished the season that way. I haven't seen the numbers lately. The O had no impact on how pathetic our D played this year. Our D gave up an average of 39 points a game over the last six SEC games. That is awful.
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