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re: At Auburn, athletics and academics collide

Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:06 pm to
lolburn
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:08 pm to


nb4hawgfan:



eta: Ooops too late, he couldn't wait to post.
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:08 pm to
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Obligatory pre-season Auburn hit piece covering the non-scandal. It won't be a shocker when the tool who wrote this is connected with UAT or UGA.


The writer is Ben Cohen who graduated from Duke who's head coach is, wait for it, Bammer David Cutcliffe. Come on sheeple. Wake up! If you don't think this was a REC operation you're living in a dream world
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:08 pm to
When Saban went to LSU and Bama he demanded a program in general studies. You create your own major. Can be good for some students.

Timing, NYT, hit piece.
Posted by NutBunnies
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:09 pm to
Something like this comes out everytime Auburn is projected to do well. I wonder why.......Hmmmm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:11 pm to
Pretty much, undergrads now are like high school diplomas pre 80s. It's easy and considered standard. Probably why people think COA is too high, despite the contrary.
Posted by Outside looking in
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:11 pm to
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It's General Studies at alabama



This...or its "Undeclared" while being a junior in college

And no, I don't have a link
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:11 pm to
Bama is nothing but a large junior college attached to an football program.

And gumps have low integrity.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:12 pm to
The article got the numbers wrong

Auburn records show 14 current members of the football team, four members of the men's basketball team and three members of both the baseball and softball teams are majoring in public administration
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:15 pm to

You could write the same story for every single SEC program.

Step 1: obtain school's football media guide
Step 2: identify black players and note their majors
Step 3: determine most common major
Step 4: file FOIA requests
Step 5: come up with catchy title, such as "Fourth Down for Human and Recreational Development"
Step 6: sit back and revel as the 50 million fans of other schools revel in a glass house/rock throwing frenzy

Posted by northalabamacracker
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:17 pm to
Auburn should have lost its accreditation years ago.
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:19 pm to
The main point of the article wasn't that they had an easy degree for athletes. The was that the athletic department wanted to bribe the university to keep the program after it was flagged for termination.

Idgaf either way. In a perfect world players would get paid and wouldn't have to go to college. But it would also be the end of college football so there's no easy answer.
Posted by ehole
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:20 pm to
One of my former best friends was an AU athlete... got his MBA from Columbia. It ain't all bad if you actually care about your education. Some people are there just to train and school is a secondary requirement. This isn't limited to the revenue sports either. Like a quarter of my team wasn't even from America. Most were native English speakers, not all. There's a coach at uf now who was an age group coach of mine... I used to always bust balls about being a communications major, but f it he gets paid damn well for having a bogus 4 year degree to meet a job requirement. His Olympic gold medal, multiple world and NCAA titles, and a.a. would not have sufficed for getting employed.
I'm OK with athletes getting easy degrees if other students are allowed to as well... which is the case here.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

Auburn should have lost its accreditation years ago.



For what ? Allowing Special Entry for students with below average entrance scores(non-athletes) ? No that is another state institution.
Posted by Outside looking in
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:20 pm to
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Auburn should have lost its accreditation years ago.


You should have lost your virginity years ago, but here we are...
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:21 pm to
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Something like this comes out everytime Auburn is projected to do well. I wonder why.......Hmmmm


Oh this thing reeks of A Bammer plant. Rupert Murdoch, the owner of the WSJ, is on the Council of Foreign Relations with, wait for it, Condeleeza Rice a noted Bammer. Seriously we need to get that Bloggle guy or maybe Jeff Lee on this now. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
Posted by Ldrake53
Member since Feb 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:21 pm to
I have been waiting for these types of articles to start popping up; Auburn could be almost any college really. I believe the lawsuit at UNC, a former bastion of academic integrity, that exposed academic fraud, has opened the door to college professors and instructors speaking up, whereas they once would have shut up. They don't want to be shamed for looking away.

Auburn sports fans should be careful not to openly antagonize and try to discredit those profs that voiced their displeasure about this. They were only doing their jobs, and it could open up a can of worms.

It's one thing for a school to babysit a student academically; by that I mean essentially spoon feed them an education via intensive tutoring, class monitoring, etc. its another to commit the kind of fraud that occurred at UNC - and I'm not suggesting the situation at Auburn compares - and is probably happening at many other schools.

If they were doing it at Notre Dame and UNC, they are doing it in the SEC.


Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:23 pm to
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Bama is nothing but a large junior college attached to an football program. And gumps have low integrity.


No kidding. I mean sure Bama has a much lower acceptance rate than Auburn but that's because all these high school Gumps want to root for the Thad
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:26 pm to
Correct.

AU is bamas Daddy as well.
Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:27 pm to
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It ain't all bad if you actually care about your education.

Just visited a buddy I went to school with in New Haven, he's in graduate school at Yale. If you are really bright and a hard worker, every school in the SEC can get you a damn good job or into a damn good grad school. That's just facts.
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