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re: 2 SEC Schools Rank in Forbes' 2015 Top 25 Best Public Colleges

Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:02 pm to
why do you care?
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:05 pm to
ok but the truth is not up for a vote. people used to think the world is flat and a lot of other dumb stuff.

actually a lot of people do agree with me on this. lol I've had the conversations.

again you are saying one college is better than another, without any personal knowledge of either. You are a programmed robot.

Vanderbilt is a chick school. W and M even more so. lol
This post was edited on 8/1/15 at 12:06 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36419 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:05 pm to
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Just because you suck up to Harvard, don't think every employer cares what college you go to. they aren't going to hire somebody just b/c they went to Harvard.

cracks me up how people who don't attend Harvard always talk about how it is the best. how do you know if you didn't go there. like reviewinjg a restaurant you never ate at.



You are in such denial it's pathetic. There's a reason the smartest kids with the most accomplishments go to Harvard and not fricking Clemson.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36419 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:05 pm to
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again you are saying one college is better than another, without any personal knowledge of either.


You are evidence the majority of schools are better than Clemson.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45220 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:05 pm to
Georgia Tech at 15?
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:09 pm to
lol, many of the smartest people in the world did not do well in high school because they didn't care and it wasn't about their interests.

regardless, the SAT scores and GPAs of higher schoolers doesn't mean the quality of the professors is better at the college, or that employers are chomping at the bit to hire those students vs another school like NC State.

I would daresay the engineering students at NC State are at least as intelligent as the liberal arts majors at Harvard.
This post was edited on 8/1/15 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:10 pm to
I'm evidence of critical thinking skills and not accepting a premise without any proof. You've provided zero evidence that if a Vanderbilt person applies to a job, they get the job vs a person who went to another college. But your premise is that is how it works.

College education only really matters for getting your first job, the next jobs you take the emphasis is going to be on your work experience, the quality of your previous employers, your skillset like use of various computer software, and your people skills. The interview is the biggest make or break point in getting a job offer.
This post was edited on 8/1/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:15 pm to
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I say some are overrated and overrated by people who know nothing about them.


What gives you the knowledge to make that assertion? You say they are overrated by people who know nothing about them, yet you are underrating them and know nothing about them. You have asserted that they are all on equal footing, but you know nothing about any of them. The sad thing is you do not see any irony in the shite you are posting.

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Post your resume if you are going to assert you are more intelligent than me. Why do you think people have to prove to you that they went to a university?


Well my reading comprehension is better than yours since I never made any claim comparing my intelligence to yours. I simply stated you were dumb. That is a statement not a comparison.

And I never said anything about "proving" that you went to a university. I made the assumption you were a Clemson student/grad since you are white knighting for them. Guess I was wrong.

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Who are you?


I am Me.

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YOu full of yourself.


Not sure where you are getting this from.

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You talk about things that you have no personal knowledge of


Says the guy talking about things he has no personal knowledge of.

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How do you know that x university is better than y university if you have no experience with either of them?


Because statistics show this in more cases than not.

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You and others are proof that advertising works.


And you are proof that birth control is not 100% effective.

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It cracks me up some of you guys get so angry when all I'm saying is SEC schools and other schools are just as good as IVy League and other schools who claim to be the bees knees. Some kind of self loathing thing I guess.


Who is angry? I haven't seen anyone in here angry, they are just laughing at your lack of argument. And your excessive use of the childish "bees knees". How is it self loathing if people are happy with their education, but know that it is not the top school in the world. I know for a fact that I would not cut it at MIT. Doesn't mean I'm a self loather, it means I'm not a self aggrandizing moron like yourself who wants to puff up what ever level of education he has to the level it is not worthy.

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36419 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:15 pm to
You already have your feeble mind made up that your mediocre safety school is on par with the world's most renowned and selective institutions, so there's no point in trying to argue this. Your rejection letter from Vanderbilt and/or Harvard clearly left an irreversible impact on you.
Posted by austingator
austin
Member since Jan 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:17 pm to
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Don't lump Texas in with your garbage school. A&M's admittance rate is just short of "walk-and-chew-gum."



Sorry, this is just not true.

Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:19 pm to
I'm not underrating them. I never said any of these schools are bad. Your premise if I say they are overrated then i'm underrating because you believe they are superior. All I am saying is I think the large public universities are as good as any of the schools you think are the bees knees.

You don't actually counter anything I say or provide proof that one college is better than another. It is argumentation by assertion. Nobody ask to just accept your assertion. The assertion may be correct, but you have not proven it. I've given an outline of what I think would prove the assertion, ie, data from employers on who they hire, what colleges they attended, and how much they get paid.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:21 pm to
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I would daresay the engineering students at NC State are at least as intelligent as the liberal arts majors at Harvard.


Did you just compare Engineering to Liberal Arts?

Holy crap man only a fool would think that an Engineering firm would hire a Harvard LA grad over an NC State EN grad. you are comparing apples to potatoes! But they would hire a Harvard Law or medical Grad over a Clemson Law or Medical Grad.

Your argument is that I'm as good a driver as Mario Andretti because we both drive cars.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:21 pm to
selectivity has nothing to do with quality of education. any small private will be more selective given they are smaller and are not required to admit in state students.

I would contend that there are people, like me, who would be inclined not hire people who went to Vandy, understanding they are pretentious and full of themselves. YOu don't understand human nature and it isn't like everybody in the workforce went to Vandy or other bees knees institutions.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:25 pm to
nah you and others are saying one university is better than another, their students are smarter, etc. I just proved that is a broadbrush generalization. I also have pointed out Gore, Bush, Kerry, Obama went to these schools and I can't see any of them doing well in architecture, engineering, chemistry program, etc.
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20245 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:26 pm to
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doesn't mean the quality of the professors is better at the college
Seriously? They can handpick their faculty from about anywhere in the world. 95% of the professors at Clemson would leave tomorrow if Harvard offered them the same position.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:28 pm to
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The assertion may be correct, but you have not proven it. I've given an outline of what I think would prove the assertion, ie, data from employers on who they hire, what colleges they attended, and how much they get paid


LINK

LINK

LINK

Now please Shut up!
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:30 pm to
lol you'd be wrong about that. Just from a weather standpoint alone.

Just because Harvard has advertised well and some people buy into it including college professors, doesn't mean they have better professors and teach subjects at a higher level. The laws of physics don't change, they are the same laws if taught at Clemson or Alabama or Harvard.

a lot of the professors that are touted aren't great teachers, it is about their ability in research and most importantly to obtain funds for the school to do research. follow the money
This post was edited on 8/1/15 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:32 pm to
posting links to websites doesn't prove anything. I'm not going to look at them without you summarizing the information on those websites that backs up your assertion.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:32 pm to
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I also have pointed out Gore, Bush, Kerry, Obama went to these schools and I can't see any of them doing well in architecture, engineering, chemistry program, etc.


Holy crap your arguments a awful! You chose politicians who did not get degrees in any of those fields and you are arguing they wouldn't be good at them! I'm pretty sure you would be a fricking awful doctor! But I'm guessing if you are a Clemson grad you can just jump into any field and be successful!

I think all the people you listed are extremely intelligent even if I disagree with most everything they all did in office. You are seriously arguing that two of the most powerful men in the word and a couple of close seconds are not intelligent. Holy Crap!
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:36 pm to
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posting links to websites doesn't prove anything. I'm not going to look at them without you summarizing the information on those websites that backs up your assertion.


Ok you are either a troll or an Idiot or both. I'm done with you. I am not going to sit here and type out what the links show. Which is the graduates of all of the schools mentioned thus far make more money. You refuse to accept facts and want to live in some wild fantasy world. Keep dreaming and enjoy those unicorn farts!
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