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re: 2 SEC Schools Rank in Forbes' 2015 Top 25 Best Public Colleges

Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:37 pm to
two of them have just given Iran a state sponsor of terrorism the green light to do a weapons program, while Iranian theocrats are shouting 'death to america' at the same time. That doesn't seem intelligent.

Does somebody who overuses exclaimation points when writing exude intelligence? Or seem more like Reese Witherspoon's character in Legally Blonde? Lol
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:42 pm to
Vanderbilt is the best! I take to the internet to advertise colleges that I did not attend! They are better than any large public university!!!!! Any employer is going to hire a Vanderbilt grad vs a grad of another college because they went to Vanderbilt!!!!!! Duh!!!!!!! lol, you are dumb!!!

I have worked at 4 large firms in SC, MD, and AL and never met one Vanderbilt grad. And these firms hire people who went to a large diversity of colleges.
This post was edited on 8/1/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42453 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 2:51 pm to
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I have worked at 4 large firms in SC, MD, and AL and never met one Vanderbilt grad. And these firms hire people who went to a large diversity of colleges.


As I think any normal person would expect. There are a lot more jobs out there than colleges, and it's not like every single person from Vanderbilt is better than every single person from Clemson. That's not what I'm trying to say. You're just blindly ignoring or dismissing facts that aren't in favor of your arguments. SAT scores matter because in general, that means that there are smarter people at the school with the higher avg. SAT score. On avg. Vanderbilt's (and Harvard's) professors make more than Clemson's professors so you get a higher quality of teaching. Vanderbilt's alumni make more for the same jobs than Clemson's because the Vandy degree is just better. I'm not trying to knock Clemson because I believe it is a good school. It's just not as good as Vandy.

When everyone else is disagreeing with you on something, you're generally the one who's wrong.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 1:12 am to
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Why do you think anybody who goes to Clemson cares what you think about it? Who are you? A guy who uses expressions like 'e-dick' doesn't come across as more intelligent than any Clemson person. Nobody has to gush over Vandy or any other school, you are the one who thinks everybody has to think your school is the bees knees.

I can't see people in position at a company in which they hire other people chomping at the bit to hire graduates of Vanderbilt vs other schools, if the person doing the hiring did not go to Vanderbilt.

I'm open minded to Vandy, William and Mary and these other bees knees schools being superior to other schools like Clemson and NC State and Auburn. But provide some proof of it. Can you point to stats that prove Vandy grads make more than Tennensee grads? Or that Vandy chemistry grads understand chemistry better than Alabama chemistry grads? Can you provide evidene that all of the professors at Vandy teach the subjets better than all of the professors at Ole Miss? I don' think you can.

My opinion, people who graduate from good colleges don't argue by assertion. You are supposed to back up your assertions.


You know, a graduate of a better school than Clemson -- say, most of the SEC schools -- would have noticed that I didn't say a damned thing about Vandy. Pretty much everyone here knows I'm not the sort to make a lot of noise about our academic reputation, mainly because I think any major university is going to turn out plenty of well-educated people. Your need to force people to provide detailed analyses of their schools when they weren't even trying to promote said schools is extremely insecure. I'm not even making fun of you. It really is.

Also, I supposed I could have said "virtual priapic membrum virile" rather than "e-dick", but, as I established, I wasn't trying to impress anyone, least of all a Clemson fan (I make no assumptions about whether you matriculated there, so "fan" will suffice.)
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 1:13 am
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3012 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 1:18 am to
USNWR is the only academic ranking system that means a shite.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 3:06 am to
He has time to frick his sister but not enough time to use correct syntax and grammar.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:19 am to
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As I think any normal person would expect. There are a lot more jobs out there than colleges, and it's not like every single person from Vanderbilt is better than every single person from Clemson. That's not what I'm trying to say. You're just blindly ignoring or dismissing facts that aren't in favor of your arguments. SAT scores matter because in general, that means that there are smarter people at the school with the higher avg. SAT score. On avg. Vanderbilt's (and Harvard's) professors make more than Clemson's professors so you get a higher quality of teaching. Vanderbilt's alumni make more for the same jobs than Clemson's because the Vandy degree is just better. I'm not trying to knock Clemson because I believe it is a good school. It's just not as good as Vandy. When everyone else is disagreeing with you on something, you're generally the one who's wrong.


oh so because a professor gets paid more, he teaches better than another professor who gets paid less. So a professor getting paid to teach only starts getting teaching well when he gets a certain salary.

SAT score has nothing to do with the quality of the professors and educations. That is a just a vanity brag that is irrelevant to anything. No employer cares what your SAT score is.

Again you know nothing about Clemson. You have never gone to Clemson, you have never tried to get a job with a Clemson degree. Yet you say Vanderbilt is a better school. No, it is an overpriced, overrated school for rich kids who brag about their SAT scores and high school GPA like a Reese Withersppon yearbook Nazi in Election.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:21 am to
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He has time to frick his sister but not enough time to use correct syntax and grammar.


you have time to post stuff like this but never anything about the actual topic. stop stalking me bro.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:27 am to
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You know, a graduate of a better school than Clemson -- say, most of the SEC schools -- would have noticed that I didn't say a damned thing about Vandy. Pretty much everyone here knows I'm not the sort to make a lot of noise about our academic reputation, mainly because I think any major university is going to turn out plenty of well-educated people. Your need to force people to provide detailed analyses of their schools when they weren't even trying to promote said schools is extremely insecure. I'm not even making fun of you. It really is. Also, I supposed I could have said "virtual priapic membrum virile" rather than "e-dick", but, as I established, I wasn't trying to impress anyone, least of all a Clemson fan (I make no assumptions about whether you matriculated there, so "fan" will suffice.)


If you go by the rankings that you worship, Clemson is better than most SEC schools. Tied with UGA and Florida a few spots ahead.

They were gushing over these schools, schools they have no experience or personal knowledge of, saying these schools are better than other schools. My analogy is this is about as useful as a person reviewing two restaurants that he never at and ranking one over the other.

One thing the people who always gush over certain colleges never mention is how expensive they are. lol They are absolute ripoff on tuition and just taking on a lot of unnecessary debt or you have rich parents.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 11:30 am
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42453 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:44 am to
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oh so because a professor gets paid more, he teaches better than another professor who gets paid less. So a professor getting paid to teach only starts getting teaching well when he gets a certain salary.


No. You're clearly an idiot, but I'll try explaining this to you anyways. Better professors go where they get paid more, just like any other job field. That's why professors' salaries can be an indicator of where the best teachers are.

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One thing the people who always gush over certain colleges never mention is how expensive they are. lol They are absolute ripoff on tuition and just taking on a lot of unnecessary debt or you have rich parents.


That's the reason I mentioned ROI. Vandy is expensive, but on average (again, not an absolute) Vanderbilt Alumni have a greater ROI (68th in the nation) than Clemson does (114th).

US World News and Report who does actually know quite a lot about every school has Clemson ranked 62nd (good ranking, nothing to complain about) and Vandy 16th out of national universities.

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No employer cares what your SAT score is.


Yes, I know that. But your SAT score does help you get into better colleges. There's a reason that Harvard's average SAT score is higher than Mississippi State's.


I really can't tell if you actually believe Clemson is the best university in the nation, or if you're just trolling. I just hope you never seriously have this discussion with any one who is higher up in your company than you because they will look at you like you're an idiot.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 12:10 pm to
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If you go by the rankings that you worship, Clemson is better than most SEC schools. Tied with UGA and Florida a few spots ahead.


I worship Shub-Niggurath. Who the frick worships "Rankings"? Is this some sort of Clemson auto fellatio rite?
Posted by hangingdawg
Member since Jul 2015
245 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 12:38 pm to
Has anybody ever heard anybody leaving a school because the academics were not challenging enough? Most of us were not "A" students anyway. I say you can get all you want, maybe not the major, but all you want at any SEC school. OK I'll throw in Clemson too
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
1671 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 5:43 pm to
i agree with the clemson guy's general point. 1+1=2 no matter where you go to school. it's ridiculous how many kids take huge loans to go to out-of-state or private schools. the quality of education at lsu and clemson is just as good as it is at harvard or berkeley. for some silly reason, society places much more value on a harvard degree. lsu and harvard have their fair share of morons and geniuses, geeks and well-rounded individuals. just because your family's rich or you were a geek in high school with no social skills doesn't make you a better person or employee. give me a well-rounded lsu grad over some harvard dork anyday.
Posted by Rad Possum
Member since Jul 2015
19 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 5:53 pm to
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You should probably get with the times. UGA is a great school, and is only getting better.

UGA profs' pay last in Southeast, data shows
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