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re: 2 SEC Schools Rank in Forbes' 2015 Top 25 Best Public Colleges

Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:52 pm to
No LSU?


















List is accurate then
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:52 pm to
Some of these are surprising.

Vanderbilt 12.7%
Florida 46.5%
Georgia 56.1%
Alabama 56.5%
Arkansas 58.6%
Mississippi 59.4%
South Carolina 60.6%
Mississippi State 64.8%
Kentucky 68.6%
Texas A&M 69.5%
Tennessee 72.5%
Lousiana State 76.2%
Missouri 78.6%
Auburn 82.7%

https://www.acceptancerate.com/
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:58 pm to
You can't be so stupid as to think UGA and Mizzou are even close
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:58 pm to
I applied to the Pac12 but SEC was my safety conference.
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
Member since Mar 2014
6193 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Auburn 82.7%




Backup school
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18568 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:00 pm to
The coast guard is a very good school. I had a friend who went there and he said the experience was unbelievable. The living conditions are supposed to be the worst of the military academies but still a great education and a great opportunity.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:16 pm to
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You can't be so stupid as to think UGA and Mizzou are even close

Missouri is AAU though. And when you're AAU, you're AAU for life.*



*Unless you're Nebraska, then you get kicked out after joining the B10.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6023 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:18 pm to
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Are people just not bothering to apply to UF anymore?


Yes, there is much more self evaluation going on before they apply to UF nowadays.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25866 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:23 pm to
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Some of these are surprising.



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UTEP - 6,240 6,228 99.8%


Holy shite.


eta: Imagine being one of the 12 who didn't get in.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:03 pm to
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Watt said Thursday that reports on her remarks had missed the point of her presentation to a conference and that she regretted any suggestion of illegal activity. Meanwhile, the university denied several of the allegations, but acknowledged it aims to improve in the influential rankings. Clemson jumped from No. 38 among public universities in 2001 to No. 22 in 2008 — an unusually quick ascent considering the rankings typically change little from year to year.


So Clemson figured out how to manipulate the ranking system and no other college could figure out the same thing? lol Color me skeptical. All Clemson did is look at the critirea and adjust things at the college to help boost the ranking. The critiera is what it is.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25866 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:08 pm to
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So Clemson figured out how to manipulate the ranking system and no other college could figure out the same thing? lol Color me skeptical. All Clemson did is look at the critirea and adjust things at the college to help boost the ranking. The critiera is what it is.


Nope. A number of schools did what they could to skew the rankings.

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Schools cheat. No one knows how many colleges and universities fib when they complete their college rankings surveys. But some pretty big players have been caught falsifying or manipulating numbers to bump themselves up in the standings, including Clemson University, Claremont McKenna College, U.S. Naval Academy, Baylor University and Emory University (I wrote about such questionable behavior by Ivy League institutions in a previous post.)


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adjust things at the college to help boost the ranking


If you read the article you would know that Clemson ranked all of its peers with a below average grade, which counts for a significant % of the rankings. Point is, the rankings hardly reflect the quality of the school.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:08 pm to
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I just overheard a kid say Clemson was his top college choice (majoring in business) over Penn State. I really thought about saying something...


yeah I hear people talking in the streets about how awesome Florida business school is. it is amazing.

you are an expert on Clemson even though you didn't attend Clemson. WHy do care how good a school is if you didn't attend it. the quality of Clemson's programs should only matter to be who get a degree there. they are the ones trying to get a job with it on their resume.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:10 pm to
you haven't explained why was unethical about what Clemson and other schools did.

Clemson was named University of the Year by Time one year for its writing across the curriculum program, which isn't something the US News critiera even looks at.

US News doesn't look at other things as well, like colleges building new facilities and other things.

the lady who made those comments was not professional, she should have kept it in house and if she couldn't get them to stop the 'manupilation, then resign from the job and then talk about it. SHe's getting paid by people she is basically saying are corrupt. Don't see how anybody takes her seriously, you not suppose to make your employer look bad as an employee. That wasn't bright at all on her part and she was fired.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 4:16 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25866 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:15 pm to
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you haven't explained why was unethical about what Clemson and other schools did.


You don't think it's unethical to limit class sizes, not because you think it's the right thing to do and because you think it will help students, but so you can aid a ratio so help your rankings? You think limiting course access for Clemson students that worked their butt off to get into school for a ranking is ethical?

Or deliberately ranking peers with a poor grade? Trying to boost Clemson's reputation by trying to tarnish others? That's ethical to you?
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:17 pm to
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Imagine being one of the 12 who didn't get in.


Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:18 pm to
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you haven't explained why was unethical about what Clemson and other schools did.

Clemson was named University of the Year by Time one year for its writing across the curriculum program, which isn't something the US News critiera even looks at.

US News doesn't look at other things as well, like colleges building new facilities and other things.

the lady who made those comments was not professional, she should have kept it in house and if she couldn't get them to stop the 'manupilation, then resign from the job and then talk about it. SHe's getting paid by people she is basically saying are corrupt. Don't see how anybody takes her seriously, you not suppose to make your employer look bad as an employee. That wasn't bright at all on her part and she was fired.

Don't y'all have a building on campus named after a lyncher?
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:18 pm to
isn't limiting class sizes supposed to be a good thing? So what if the only reason they did it was because of the US News criteria? Any college could have done this.

I have no problem with ranking schools lower, because unc and others are so overhyped by people. Few people think for themselves on these college reputations.

only reason you are obsessed with this, from like 7 years ago, is it is Clemson.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:21 pm to
Yup, he helped found an agricultural / technical school in the state.

I'm ok with his name being removed from the building because he was a dumb guy, the funny thing is his views on economics are similar to Obama's, lot of class warfare.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25866 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:21 pm to
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Few people think for themselves on these college reputations.


Which is exactly why Clemson manipulates it. Appealing to the lowest common denominator.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:24 pm to
UNC was offering phony classes for athletes to keep them eligible. That is one of the schools that the presient of Clemson ranked lower.

I probably wouldn't have ranked these other schools lower, but the same as Clemson because I think that is true. Clemson is better than UNC at undergrad level because it has engineering and architecture and I believe other unique majors UNC doesn't offer. UNC is basically liberal arts and business, which is fine but a college that offers a great diversity of majors is better in my view.

If you look at the highest ranked colleges, most of them are colleges that are the oldest in country that have had a lot of wealthy people and politician kids go to. So that is the real manipulation, they market themselves all the time but it is all hype.

If Clemson can control our ranking then so can other schools. Why isn't Clemson ranked no. 1 now? If we are master manipulaters why does it top out at 20. lol
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 4:27 pm
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