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re: Do you think Mississippi should change it's state flag?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:45 pm to RebelNutt18
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:45 pm to RebelNutt18
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It's very dull.
That's exactly what we should be going for. Like South Carolina.
Swap out a magnolia tree, ditch the moon, and make the background red or green as to not be such a blatant ripoff.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:48 pm to DCRebel
It is pretty ironic that SC is the only state in the South (other than Louisiana) that doesn't have some type of reference to the confederate flag in our current flag.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:48 pm to OBReb6
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Like I said I don't really care what happens with the flag from here on out. They can change it, whatever. People's opinions of Mississippi will NEVER change, so I don't give a flying frick what our flag is.
Good point.
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I do enjoy confederate history, and have several family members who died fighting for the confederacy, and I do think the current flag is aesthetically pleasing, but I don't display any confederate symbols on my person in public.
Exactly. I enjoy our history. It was not pretty, but it happened.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:49 pm to OBReb6
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Like I said I don't really care what happens with the flag from here on out. They can change it, whatever. People's opinions of Mississippi will NEVER change, so I don't give a flying frick what our flag is.
Good point.
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I do enjoy confederate history, and have several family members who died fighting for the confederacy, and I do think the current flag is aesthetically pleasing, but I don't display any confederate symbols on my person in public.
Exactly. I enjoy our history. It was not pretty, but it happened.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:50 pm to Carolina Tide
Everyone else was smart enough to be subtle. LSU tigers are named after a confederate unit.
I was going to ask you if you're aware Alabama's flag is modeled after the confederate battle flag. Does that piss you off?
I was going to ask you if you're aware Alabama's flag is modeled after the confederate battle flag. Does that piss you off?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:53 pm to OBReb6
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I was going to ask you if you're aware Alabama's flag is modeled after the confederate battle flag.
This is actually disputed. Some say it's supposed to be modeled after the flag of the house of Burgundy, some say it's supposed to be modeled after the flag of Scotland.
I don't know what the correct answer is. Maybe none of the above?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:56 pm to Carolina Tide
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It is pretty ironic that SC is the only state in the South (other than Louisiana) that doesn't have some type of reference to the confederate flag in our current flag.
Wrong again.
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Less than three months later, a variation of the palmetto flag unfurled over Fort Sumter on April 14, 1861, the day it was surrendered to Confederate General Beauregard, making it likely the first Confederate flag flown over captured United States' territory.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:57 pm to rb
Not so fast.
So the flag's design is inspired by the American Revolution and was simply used during the Civil War.
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In 1775, Colonel William Moultrie was asked by the Revolutionary Council of Safety to design a flag for the South Carolina troops to use during the American Revolutionary War. Moultrie's design had the blue of the militia's uniforms and the crescent.
The palmetto tree was added in 1861, also a reference to Moultrie's defense of Sullivan Island; the fortress he'd constructed had survived largely because the palmetto trees, laid over sand walls, were able to withstand British cannons.
So the flag's design is inspired by the American Revolution and was simply used during the Civil War.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:58 pm to Carolina Tide
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It is pretty ironic that SC is the only state in the South (other than Louisiana) that doesn't have some type of reference to the confederate flag in our current flag.
Swap out the pelican for a large single star and look what the LA flag is, Bonnie Blue. Now please go sit in the corner and read a history book.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:59 pm to OBReb6
I knew the about the Alabama flag, and no it doesn't piss me off. The confederate flag doesn't piss me off either. Also I won't automatically think anyone who flies the flag is a racist.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:02 pm to DCRebel
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Not so fast.
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In 1775, Colonel William Moultrie was asked by the Revolutionary Council of Safety to design a flag for the South Carolina troops to use during the American Revolutionary War. Moultrie's design had the blue of the militia's uniforms and the crescent.
The palmetto tree was added in 1861, also a reference to Moultrie's defense of Sullivan Island; the fortress he'd constructed had survived largely because the palmetto trees, laid over sand walls, were able to withstand British cannons.
So the flag's design is inspired by the American Revolution and was simply used during the Civil War.
fricking THANK YOU!!! Do people here don't think I don't know the history of my fricking state? Jesus.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:03 pm to Carolina Tide
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:08 pm to cave canem
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Swap out the pelican for a large single star and look what the LA flag is, Bonnie Blue. Now please go sit in the corner and read a history book.
So ANY blue flag is a reference to the Confederacy?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:10 pm to DCRebel
Looks like Montana is a confederate state.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:11 pm to RebelNutt18
Can y'all see my avi and sig? It appears as if it is gone.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:11 pm to DCRebel
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So the flag's design is inspired by the American Revolution and was simply used during the Civil War.
If this is your argument, can you tell me if St.Andrews Cross pre-dates the American Civil War ? What inspired it ?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:13 pm to cave canem
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Swap out the pelican for a large single star and look what the LA flag is, Bonnie Blue. Now please go sit in the corner and read a history book.
Not exactly a book, but it will do
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The Louisiana flag originated from an 1800 design, but was officially adopted by the Louisiana State Legislature on July 1, 1912. It displays the state bird, the Eastern Brown Pelican, from the state seal, in white and gold, on a field of blue. The mother pelican is shown tearing flesh from her own breast to feed her three young. Louisiana's motto, "UNION, JUSTICE & CONFIDENCE" is printed in blue letters on a white and gold banner below the pelicans.
The pelican has been a symbol of Louisiana since the 1800's and, in fact, one of the state's nicknames is "The Pelican State." Early settlers in the area found pelicans to be generous and nurturing birds and it was believed that, when food was scarce, pelicans would tear at their breasts with their beaks to feed some of their blood to their young.
The fact that it's similar to the Bonnie Blue flag is pure coincidence. Out of the 50 states, 27 of those state flags have an all blue back drop. I doubt states like Maine and Montana designed thier flag with the Bonnie Blue flag in mind.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:17 pm to The Spleen
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I don't think they're racist in intent, but I do think they are aimed at keeping certain people from voting.
Yep. The dead ones.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:18 pm to rb
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If this is your argument, can you tell me if St.Andrews Cross pre-dates the American Civil War ? What inspired it ?
What inspired it is the martyrdom of St. Andrew, which is WAY older than the Civil War.
shite, St. Andrew's cross has been the flag of Scotland for longer than the United States has been a country.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:35 pm to DCRebel
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So ANY blue flag is a reference to the Confederacy?
No, no more than any flag with red white and blue represents the confederacy. There have been many books written on the origins of the flags of the south, you may find them more educational than the the picture the other poster illustrated.
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