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re: Coaching Search Announcement by Mack Rhodes
Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:08 am to JesusQuintana
Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:08 am to JesusQuintana
As much as I would like to see Patterson, Herman, or Fuente hired, I think the best move and most seamless transition would be to promote Odom. We could then promote Kul to DC and promote future HOFer, Justin Smith, to DL coach. Henson would then have one year to show major improvement in the offense before looking for a new OC.
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:36 am to TigerTap5
I think I'm in the minority but we have no clue how well coach Kul could coach a whole defense. We know that he's the best positional coach in the country, but we have no idea if he can call a defensive game and coach up other parts of the ball. In a perfect world he would remain the D-line coach with a nice pay raise but that's unlikely
Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:36 am to TigerTap5
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As much as I would like to see Patterson, Herman, or Fuente hired, I think the best move and most seamless transition would be to promote Odom. We could then promote Kul to DC and promote future HOFer, Justin Smith, to DL coach. Henson would then have one year to show major improvement in the offense before looking for a new OC.
Not being critical, but that is the safe hire. And probably less money. But hiring a inexperienced HC has more risk regardless of their program knowledge. The SEC is not a "coach training" conference.
My crystal ball is broken, darn it. AD Rhoades does not have a pick yet for the first interview. Way too early. Lots of speculation and it's only starting. Let's track some airplanes first.
My "pick" is someone with HC experience preferably in P-5.
And everybody that wants to keep Odom, Kul, and etc. Get ready to lose them. Odds are they are all gone. New HC's want to hire their own and rightfully so. Just the facts. Andy Hill was the only hold-over to make Pinkel's staff.
How deep the program digs into their pocket will demonstrate the commitment to football. It's time for Rhoades to earn his paycheck.
I do know this will be interesting and a pivotal moment for the program.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:44 am to Mizzou Mule
Nobody was a HC until they were a HC. That doesn't really bother me.
It's just as risky to hire the next big thing out of the mid major ranks. Those types flame out quite a bit as well.
There is risk with any hire. Personally, the last thing I'd want to see is some flameout or mediocre coach already at a power 5 school. If we could get a successful one that would be great, but I don't see it happening.
It's just as risky to hire the next big thing out of the mid major ranks. Those types flame out quite a bit as well.
There is risk with any hire. Personally, the last thing I'd want to see is some flameout or mediocre coach already at a power 5 school. If we could get a successful one that would be great, but I don't see it happening.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:47 am to JesusQuintana
No risk = fold program.
New program = Mizzou SJ cry-babies. Solid possible Natty.
New program = Mizzou SJ cry-babies. Solid possible Natty.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:51 am to Mizzou Mule
There is no guarantee that by hiring Odom that Kool will stay on as a DC.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:44 pm to semotruman
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I read that. An idea who the SWGA dude may be, and if he's at all reliable? Is was the one with details about the Patterson situation...
He's getting a lot of attention over on TB. Only been there for 8mths and not prior "inside" info before this. What he's saying doesn't sound crazy.
To review, he's saying Patterson or Herman. Babers, Fuente, and Odom will get conciliatory looks. Patterson will only move for SEC and better pay for assts. Would choose Mizzou over USCe because he's Midwestern.
Herman will turn down doesn't see Mizzou or USCe as destination job. Looking to wait around for Texas job to open up.
Mubobby, I don't think has commented on SWGA. His comments seem to be at Maty Football, and the Paul Rhoads rumor. Mubobby is very big on Odom getting the job.
IMO, Mubobby does know things going on in AD, but it's possible he's cheerleading Odom, and/or doesn't have a line of Rhoades.
SWGA, who knows. Could be legit, but I also remember a lawyer from Chicago that had everybody going....and laughed at everyone when he got found out.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:22 pm to TigerTap5
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As much as I would like to see Patterson, Herman, or Fuente hired, I think the best move and most seamless transition would be to promote Odom. We could then promote Kul to DC and promote future HOFer, Justin Smith, to DL coach. Henson would then have one year to show major improvement in the offense before looking for a new OC.
We are a .500 team with an offense that has not been very good the last 2 years. Why is there a push for continuity?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:25 pm to Alphaman
You seem to forget that in 2013 this team was a half away from a national title game.
Or the fact if we had some offensive leadership this year we would have easily won 8-9 games.
Or the fact if we had some offensive leadership this year we would have easily won 8-9 games.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:26 pm to Alphaman
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Why is there a push for continuity?
Because change is scary to some folks.
Good point.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:29 pm to Mizzou Mule
When is Mack Rhoades meeting with the media today?
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:04 pm to TigerCruise
Supposed to be 3:30
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:19 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 11/18/15 at 5:15 pm to TigerTap5
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As much as I would like to see Patterson, Herman, or Fuente hired, I think the best move and most seamless transition would be to promote Odom. We could then promote Kul to DC and promote future HOFer, Justin Smith, to DL coach. Henson would then have one year to show major improvement in the offense before looking for a new OC.
This is my "safe" dream scenario as well, but if hiring Odom means keeping Henson/Ricker/etc., I'd rather Rhoades look elsewhere.
It's clear the defensive staff has been able to identify and develop SEC caliber talent, but the offensive side has been steadily eroding since we left the XII. If it's talent or coaching I don't know, but the quality of the OL, RB and WR talent has hit rock bottom and I'm not sure giving Henson & Co. another year is going to change anything.
And if Odom doesn't have strong ideas about the kind of offense he wants to run and the coaches to run it, I hope Rhoades expands the scope of his search.
So does anyone know if Kul would stay with a promotion to DC? Even if it's a promotion in name only?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 5:33 pm to Mizz-SEC
Charlie Strong is resigning.
You can probably cross Herman off the list now.
NVM....fake Twitter account
You can probably cross Herman off the list now.
NVM....fake Twitter account
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:30 am to JesusQuintana
Interesting read in the CoMO Tribune by Dave Morrison. Scott Roussel's feelings at the bottom are pretty good.
Steckel mentioned. That's a first for me on this HC search.
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Steckel mentioned. That's a first for me on this HC search.
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:42 am to Mizzou Mule
I will be flat out mad if he hires Steckel. Thankfully we have nothing to worry about. Kilgore is still solid on his Patterson or Herman position.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:44 am to Mizzou Mule
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Steckel
Umm, no.
0% chance
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:16 am to JesusQuintana
Steckel would be insane. He has a losing record and no relationship with Rhoades.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:20 am to pauliebleaker
Regarding Steckel, read the article and then you will know the context of that statement.
People should read before they open their mouth.
People should read before they open their mouth.
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