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Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:18 pm to mutigerz
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:18 pm to mutigerz
I think Ford is safe because he has recruited the St. Louis area for years and you don't want to start cold in the states largest city. He needs help though, he misses on big time recruits to often.
Kul can do what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants, he's untouchable. He can piss on the HC's head and the coach will say "thank you." He moves to DC/DL coach.
Odom has to stay under contract unless he gets another DC job or HC position. I'm thinking he goes to Bowling Green when Dino Babers leaves for a P5 job. Walters goes with him.
Washington is safe because of his many years of SEC ties.
Hill is 50/50. doesn't seem to be able to develop QB's. But in fairness most of his QB coach work was with Mauk. Can't go back to WR's, Washington is there.
The rest are gone when Herman comes in. IMHO
Kul can do what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants, he's untouchable. He can piss on the HC's head and the coach will say "thank you." He moves to DC/DL coach.
Odom has to stay under contract unless he gets another DC job or HC position. I'm thinking he goes to Bowling Green when Dino Babers leaves for a P5 job. Walters goes with him.
Washington is safe because of his many years of SEC ties.
Hill is 50/50. doesn't seem to be able to develop QB's. But in fairness most of his QB coach work was with Mauk. Can't go back to WR's, Washington is there.
The rest are gone when Herman comes in. IMHO
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:11 pm to surgicalvenom
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surgicalvenom - The rest are gone when Herman comes in. IMHO
I'm sure Coach Herman or any other has first choice with his own staff. I wouldn't want any program telling me who I had to hire for any position. Too much on the line. Would you agree to a dictate when your P-5 job is always on the line? No, you wouldn't. Top candidates would nicely say bye.
I'd say Mizzou better get ready for a completely new staff. Sure, a bunch of good people will be dumped. Happens everyday in business.
I would not like seeing Kul, Ivey and maybe Odom leaving. Others especially on O...bye bye. Next man up.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:16 pm to Mizzou Mule
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I would not like seeing Kul, Ivey and maybe Odom leaving. Others especially on O...bye bye. Next man up.
These three will all be in very high demand. It would be smart for whoever takes over to try keeping them on staff. But it's really all about relationships and comfort level.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:16 pm to mutigerz
I think it's a coach with some form of collegiate HC experience as well. As far as the staff I think most of the assistants are transitioning to new jobs as well. Odom/Kul/Ivey are the only ones I honestly see a new coach trying to keep. Maybe Ford if he is the primary recruiter of Trout and Espeneza.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:40 pm to countrygrammar
RockM Nation on the search
They think it will be Odom. The more I think about it I agree, and I'll be very happy with it. As they say in the article...if you've got it, you've got it and I'm fully convinced he's got it. He's also a guy that probably wouldn't look at us as a stepping stone.
Just have to pair him with a good OC. I really like Pep Hamilton
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They think it will be Odom. The more I think about it I agree, and I'll be very happy with it. As they say in the article...if you've got it, you've got it and I'm fully convinced he's got it. He's also a guy that probably wouldn't look at us as a stepping stone.
Just have to pair him with a good OC. I really like Pep Hamilton
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:47 pm to JesusQuintana
As much as I like Herman, Odom might be here for 20 years. I just hope he can get a good OC.
Either way Odom or Herman would be great.
Either way Odom or Herman would be great.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:50 pm to Mizzou Mule
All assistants are under contract to the University. The new coach basically fires those he doesn't want and retains the ones he wants to keep if any. No one forces any decision on him. I was just speculating that a new coach would keep Ford because he knows St. Louis, Keep Kul for obvious reasons (who else would be better) and keep Washington because he has spent his career in the SEC footprint for recruiting. But the new coach can clean house and bring in his own staff 100%.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:05 pm to JesusQuintana
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RockM Nation on the search
They think it will be Odom. The more I think about it I agree, and I'll be very happy with it. As they say in the article...if you've got it, you've got it and I'm fully convinced he's got it. He's also a guy that probably wouldn't look at us as a stepping stone.
Just have to pair him with a good OC. I really like Pep Hamilton
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I really think Odom makes the most sense. He knows the system, he knows the University, he knows the players. Pinkel will be around to give him some pointers, you will probably get to keep a lot of the assistants, which will keep most if not all of the current inbound recruits.
Harmon has a ridiculous buyout and we would lose Odom and Kul to his staff for sure.
I have zero problems with Odom, he also won't jump ship for the next tier.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:19 pm to TigerCruise
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...Odom, he also won't jump ship for the next tier.
So, no buy-out clause in his contract? Okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkay.
If you want loyalty, buy a dog. This is a results only industry.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:41 pm to Mizzou Mule
So you don't think Odom could deliver results? He's done a pretty good job doing just that everywhere that he has been.
You also don't think that him viewing Mizzou as his destination job shouldn't be at least some consideration.
What if Herman comes in, leads us to a 10 win season and jaunts of to Texas the very next year? What good did that do us?
Not saying that WOULD happen, but there is an infinitely higher chance that Herman would do it than Odom.
You also don't think that him viewing Mizzou as his destination job shouldn't be at least some consideration.
What if Herman comes in, leads us to a 10 win season and jaunts of to Texas the very next year? What good did that do us?
Not saying that WOULD happen, but there is an infinitely higher chance that Herman would do it than Odom.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:47 pm to surgicalvenom
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Hill is 50/50. doesn't seem to be able to develop QB's. But in fairness most of his QB coach work was with Mauk. Can't go back to WR's, Washington is there.
If Herman's the choice he's a quarterback specialist anyway, right?
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:51 pm to JesusQuintana
You can't hire a coach or not hire based on a fear that he might leave in a few years. The average college HC is only there 5-6 years. Hire the guy that you think is best. Which is what Rhoades will do, I think.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:59 pm to wubilli
I agree with. Just a consideration in my mind. We had success under Pinkel, in part, due to continuity. I know that drove some people crazy, but it was a net gain for us in the long run I think.
I'd be ecstatic if we hire Herman. Id also be ecstatic if we hired Odom. I'd be very pleased with Fuente. This search is pretty easy in my eyes.
The only way we can frick it up is by hiring some retread like Nutt, Tuberville or Chizik.
I'd be ecstatic if we hire Herman. Id also be ecstatic if we hired Odom. I'd be very pleased with Fuente. This search is pretty easy in my eyes.
The only way we can frick it up is by hiring some retread like Nutt, Tuberville or Chizik.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:25 pm to JesusQuintana
Is this the official coaching search thread?
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:38 pm to pioneerbasketball
Sure, why not?
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:40 pm to JesusQuintana
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:55 pm to JesusQuintana
please stop saying Chizuk's name. it's like beetlejuice. by saying his name you are inviting nothing good.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 8:48 pm to pauliebleaker
I shall refer to him as cheesedick from now on.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 8:53 pm to pioneerbasketball
We don't do official threads. Freedom of speech my friend
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:12 pm to reedus23
Don't ever hire a DC with no HC experience. See Odgeron/Ole Miss, Muschamp/Florida, Stoops/Kentucky, Mason/Vanderbilt, Shannon/Miami, Pellini/Nebraska. It won't work in CFB. All those guys had much better resumes than Odom, but failed or failing as a HC.
We will return to the dark days. Go for a good Offensive mind. And experience in winning. DC's traditionally do better at the NFL level as HC's not college. Don't know why. But I believe its why Venables and Smart haven't made the jump.
We will return to the dark days. Go for a good Offensive mind. And experience in winning. DC's traditionally do better at the NFL level as HC's not college. Don't know why. But I believe its why Venables and Smart haven't made the jump.
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