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re: 11 Time World Series Champions - St. Louis Cardinals

Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:48 pm to
No, I didn't mean the team needs an overhaul.I don't see a team that can win it all as the team is built right now.I just don't see them beating the Nationals or Dodgers in the playoffs.Sure, a trade or call up here and there can change the outlook.Several of the relievers are not pitching well.Martinez and Wacha have never started for a whole season.Garcia pitches with a glass arm/shoulder.Molina still hasn't hit a HR yet.Reynolds strikes out 1/3 of the time.Lynn is steady, but will never be an ace.Practically every team that wins a World Series has an ace they can lean on to win a clinching game.Cardinals don't have that yet.

Guess I should have said team has a lot of question marks right now.But, it is early in the season, and a lot can change from here on out.To their credit they keep finding ways to win.Hope they can keep it up.Will be going to the game on Sunday.
Posted by seaniec04
St Louis, MO
Member since Jan 2014
726 posts
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:27 pm to
Wacha is an ace and has also proved it in the post season.
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:54 am to
Wacha will be an ace when he proves he can shoulder the load of an entire season.

No pun, intended.

That's the only thing holding him back, and he's on an innings limit this season.

Seems to me that the margin of error for this team is small, things could go sideways fast with all of these injuries.

Looks like Gonazales will be on the shelf for awhile too, and we all know Jaime is one pitch away from the DL.
Posted by seaniec04
St Louis, MO
Member since Jan 2014
726 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 11:15 am to
Tommy John is potentially a problem for what seems like 75 % of the pitchers in the league. Wacha has already proven he is healthy. So is Strasburg not proven then? Does that make the Nationals non contenders?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 11:42 am to
Am worried about Garcia. Not worried about Wacha. Martinez is Martinez. He'll look all world for 4 starts and then look like a single A pitcher in the 5th. Molina is Molina. Would be nice to have the HR's but he's still hitting the ball and driving in runs. Reynolds is part of the black hole at first base that I concede is just that. Lynn doesn't get near the credit he deserves. He is damn near an ace level.

I hear ya about question marks and changes and there will be. It's May. They always make some changes to help the club if they're in contention. In the meantime, the team has the best record in baseball. If you can make some tweaks to it, add something maybe at 1B or a pitcher or 2 before the trade deadline, they'll be in position to give it a run.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Seems to me that the margin of error for this team is small, things could go sideways fast with all of these injuries.



That's somewhat true of every team. We might not be able to afford many more injuries, but think about it now. Cards have the best record in baseball. They lost their ace. They had lost another starter (Garcia) until recently. That's 2/5 of your rotation, including your ace, who's gone for the season. We have had others fighting injuries already for various lengths. In the meantime, we have 4 guys that are starters in the All Star game according to the initial voting, though that's a popularity contest as much as anything. Wong could arguably be on that list too.
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Tommy John is potentially a problem for what seems like 75 % of the pitchers in the league. Wacha has already proven he is healthy. So is Strasburg not proven then? Does that make the Nationals non contenders?


I'm not talking about Tommy John worries.

Dude had a rare shoulder injury last year, they are handling him with care, as they should. Shoulders are bad news.

And no, Strasburg isn't an "ace" yet. Last year was his first over 200 IP. He started one game in the NLDS. I've yet to see anything that leads me to believe he's a "proven ace".


Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17228 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 6:53 pm to
Strasburg has made 30 plus starts the last 2 years.And the Nationals have ace starters Gonzalez, Zimmermann, and Sherzer in front of him.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17228 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 6:57 pm to
I don't think a trade for Howard will happen, but it is intriguing.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

I don't think a trade for Howard will happen, but it is intriguing.



I'd be more intrigued 5 years ago. You have 7 HR's at 1B right now. Howard has 10. That's a plus. But he's another bat that is horrid against lefties.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17228 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:38 pm to
Lind and Morneau might be available too.And a lot cheaper.
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:50 pm to
Strasburg left tonight's start with an injury.

These young guys are made of glass.
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

I don't think a trade for Howard will happen, but it is intriguing.


I think it happens.

Call it a hunch.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:01 pm to
What would you be willing to give up for him and what do you think it would take to get him? It would certainly address the hole at 1B to some extent.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:08 pm to
Why on earth would we trade for Howard? His advanced stats are terrible, hell his traditional stats are terrible over the last couple seasons not to mention his lefty splits..

Im sorry, I dont want anything to do with him.
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:18 pm to
I'm not saying its the right thing to do, I just think it happens.

I think they pick up a majority of his salary, hell, they might even get Hamels.

Let's give it a couple of weeks and see what that douche Amaro is willing to part his team out for, he's already alienated the fanbase.

We've got a few pieces, however, after that, the cupboard is bare.

If Mo is gonna make a deal, he needs to make sure it counts.

Howard and Hamels would count.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17228 posts
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:25 pm to
Anyone know anything about the players drafted tonight?
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:13 pm to
Friday almost here
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:48 am to
What kind of pitcher is Garcia? Location or power?
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17228 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 6:46 pm to
Location.He's really stepped up well this year when the team needed him.Just hope he can stay off the DL.Are you going to any of the games?
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