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NBA FINALS TEAMS WITHOUT THEIR BEST PLAYER

-Ranked by the strength of the remaining roster.
-Major Finals injuries count.
-Comparisons are era-adjusted.

* = Won NBA Finals


15 STRONGEST TEAMS

1. 2017 WARRIORS* — Remove Stephen Curry

Durant, Thompson, Green, Iguodala, Livingston, West

2. 2018 WARRIORS* — Remove Stephen Curry

Durant, Thompson, Green, Iguodala, Livingston, Looney

3. 1986 CELTICS* — Remove Larry Bird

McHale, Parish, Dennis Johnson, Ainge, Walton

4. 1985 LAKERS* — Remove Magic Johnson

Kareem, Worthy, Scott, Cooper, McAdoo

5. 1983 76ERS* — Remove Moses Malone

Erving, Toney, Cheeks, Bobby Jones

6. 1987 LAKERS* — Remove Magic Johnson

Worthy, Kareem, Scott, Cooper, A.C. Green, Thompson

7. 2024 CELTICS* — Remove Jayson Tatum

Brown, White, Holiday, Horford, limited Porzingis

8. 2008 CELTICS* — Remove Kevin Garnett

Pierce, Allen, Rondo, Perkins, Posey

9. 2001 LAKERS* — Remove Shaquille O’Neal

Bryant, Fisher, Fox, Horry, Grant

10. 2019 RAPTORS* — Remove Kawhi Leonard

Lowry, Siakam, Gasol, Ibaka, VanVleet, Danny Green

11. 2014 SPURS* — Remove Tim Duncan

Parker, Ginóbili, Leonard, Green, Diaw, Splitter, Mills

12. 1982 LAKERS* — Remove Magic Johnson

Kareem, Wilkes, Nixon, Cooper, McAdoo

13. 1989 PISTONS* — Remove Isiah Thomas

Dumars, Aguirre, Rodman, Laimbeer, Johnson, Mahorn

14. 1996 BULLS* — Remove Michael Jordan

Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc, Harper, Longley, Kerr

15. 1967 76ERS* — Remove Wilt Chamberlain

Greer, Walker, Cunningham, Wali Jones, Luke Jackson


15 WEAKEST REMAINING TEAMS


1. 2015 CAVALIERS — Remove LeBron James

Mozgov, Thompson, Smith, Shumpert, Dellavedova
*Love unavailable; Irving lost after Game 1.

2. 1965 LAKERS — Remove Jerry West

Barnett, LaRusso, Hazzard, Krebs
Baylor already unavailable.

3. 2007 CAVALIERS — Remove LeBron James

Ilgauskas, Gooden, Varejão, Gibson, Pavlovic
Hughes compromised by injury.

4. 2018 CAVALIERS — Remove LeBron James

Love, Hill, Smith, Green, Thompson, Korver

5. 1981 ROCKETS — Remove Moses Malone

Reid, Murphy, Dunleavy, Paultz

6. 2001 76ERS — Remove Allen Iverson

Mutombo, McKie, Snow, Hill

7. 1974 BUCKS — Remove Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Dandridge, late-career Robertson, McGlocklin
Lucius Allen unavailable.

8. 1999 KNICKS — Remove Latrell Sprewell

Houston, Camby, Ward, Thomas
Ewing unavailable; Larry Johnson injured.

9. 1947 PHILADELPHIA WARRIORS* — Remove Joe Fulks

Musi, Dallmar, Senesky

10. 1959 MINNEAPOLIS LAKERS — Remove Elgin Baylor

Garmaker, Foust, aging Mikkelsen

11. 2020 HEAT — Remove Jimmy Butler

Herro, Robinson, Crowder, Olynyk
Adebayo and Dragic limited by injuries.

12. 1964 SAN FRANCISCO WARRIORS — Remove Wilt

Rodgers, Meschery, rookie Thurmond

13. 1994 ROCKETS* — Remove Hakeem Olajuwon

Thorpe, Maxwell, Smith, Horry, Cassell

14. 2002 NETS — Remove Jason Kidd

Martin, Van Horn, Kittles, rookie Jefferson

15. 2019 WARRIORS — Remove Stephen Curry

Thompson, Green, Iguodala, Looney, Cousins
multiple injuries.


NOTE: Curry vs. Durant is debatable. Removing Durant instead still leaves the 2017–18 Warriors at the top.
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This is some despicable shite to even type. There are other cases of similar tweets. Its obvious trolling by a bullshite Ole Miss account. but hopefully the security detail has been maxed


The offense had a terrible first half with lots of mistakes/teachable moments.

But have to say im surprised we're this high up the chart. Kudos to this awesome staff and the Defense.
That article didnt really say much. Just more bullshite

re: Northeastern 13 @ LSU 10 Final

Posted by VCeagle2013 on 3/2/26 at 6:09 pm to
Im honestly excited to see Pearson get a full game of AB's between Curiel and Yorke. I have a feeling he'll be a spark.
The South Lafayette, Maurice, Youngsville, Broussard erea is, in my opinion, the single best area to live in the entire state. the cajun culture is strong due to proximity to Vermilion Parish. Great demographics, low crime, pretty great schools, heavily republican. The food is unreal. Don't plan on ever leaving.

If Lafayette to you means you never ventured past the I10 area, UL campus, anything north or west of Johnston street, then you understandably think its like any other shite hole in Louisiana and you should spread the word.

Because South Lafayette is growing increasingly fast.


Oh and if you REALLY want good cajun food, Cajun Table and Pinchers are incredible.
Johnson, Schmidt and Curiel at the podium.

"Both these guys are great players for me, but they're also a huge part of my life. They mean alot to what we're doing."

"Relative to William Schmidt, He was young when i first came to LSU. He came to a camp and you could really see him spin the breaking ball, but i think he was 81 mph at the time. I got some advice from a scout that I trust alot. He's like 'Its going to be more important to say NO to players at LSU than it is to say YES'. "

"So we let him go and we said we'd watch him develop. Very shortly after that he committed to Mississippi State and we're like 'oh boy we may have messed up on that one'. We kept following him and seeing how he was doing. and by that time we'd won the first national championship. And luckily people around town were kinda relaying to me that maybe this is where he wants to be and what he wants to do. And when i heard that i started to move aggressively to get him to our side. Really glad we did."

"Whats more important with both of these guys(gestures at Schmidt and Curiel) is to say 'Im going to college'. Because plenty of these guys that you never hear of, they take the 2 million bucks and nobody ever hears of them again. With these guys, they are now 2 of the premier players in college baseball at the best program in college baseball. And they're going to have long careers after LSU because of how well they are developing here. and also becoming even better people than they are players. and i'm honored to coach them while I can."
Warren Nolan predicts 49-7.

Im gunna go with 45-11 regular season. undefeated in nonconference

re: This team can hit!

Posted by VCeagle2013 on 2/23/26 at 7:03 am to
I feel like the '23 offense has somehow become underrated
Its an obvious pick but Curiel is who im most excited to watch this year.

The kid's raw instincts and natural talent for baseball shined last year. and while he was physically limited as a freshman. He showed a rare level of calm and control on the mental side of things.

I am SO looking forward to seeing the physical tools and strength/burst start to catch up to the mental prowess. We could be watching one of the LSU greats.

LSU vs Clemson 2019

Posted by VCeagle2013 on 1/16/26 at 4:36 pm
Obviously theres been alot of 2019 LSU vs Indiana discourse lately. Reddit, Twitter, etc. This obviously entails alot of people disrespecting 2019 LSU, debating that 2019 Ohio State was just as good. That we barely beat Clemson in the final. That OSU looked "better in their showing vs clemson" than LSU but they shite the bed at the end of their game. yada yada.

Irks me a little bit to see how the 2019 natty is remembered in online discourse a mere 7 years later.



Yes, LSU had a very slow, and frankly UNLUCKY start to the game. LSU's first 2 possessions started at their own 7 and their own 4 yard line. 1st play of the game is a 40 yard pass to Moss, negated by penalty. Nightmare 1st quarter that resulted in Clemson being up 17-7 with 10 minutes left in the 2nd quarter.

LSU then proceeds to bitch slap and outscore Clemson 38-8 in the next 40 minutes of gameplay. This includes KNEELING OUT the game at the Clemson 4 yard line!

LSU essentially outscored a Clemson team on a 29 game win streak 45-8 in the final 40 minutes of a game?

and people are remembering this shite as CLOSE?

re: Bring back the computers

Posted by VCeagle2013 on 12/7/25 at 11:17 am to
i agree.

watching this show and i can only think one thing... this is all so fricking stupid. all of these fricking subjective debates and different data points. no one knows what matters, no one knows what data point to prioritize, every team has a legit argument. Every team just clinging to the one data point that props them up and hoping that a group of fricking imperfect, old, fat humans agree with it.

fricking retarded. computerize these fricking rankings or just let the entire top 25 in. so fricking stupid
The teams that have beaten them are a combined 22-2.

frick them both to hell but i will continue to believe those were quality wins.
All these weak arse retaliation threats, day after day. I want our country back on track, no matter the cost. Thats what I voted for.