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China…

https://www.discoveryuk.com/mysteries/archaeological-wonders-the-unsolved-longyou-caves-mystery/


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Archaeological Wonders: The Unsolved Longyou Caves Mystery In 1992 while draining water from their ponds, four farmers from Longyou County in the eastern province of Zhejiang in China stumbled across the Longyou Caves, some of the most astonishing underground structures in human history. But who made them and why remains one of the world's most intriguing archaeological enigmas.



https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-asia/longyou-caves-001248

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Ten Enduring Mysteries of China’s Longyou Caves


For those who think “the government” could not build this

Your mistake is assuming it is OUR government building it. Again, there is a parallel reality government with near unlimited resources, no rules and no oversight.

There are precedents in antiquity. Humans have done this at large scale with potentially much less. The rationale for why is debated…




https://allthatsinteresting.com/derinkuyu-underground-city


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Inside The Lost Underground City Of Derinkuyu, The Subterranean Metropolis Of Ancient Turkey By Austin Harvey | Edited By Maggie Donahue Published March 17, 2024



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There are, however, alternative theories regarding Derinkuyu's origins. Some historians have hypothesized that the city was actually built by Anatolian Hittites in the 15th century B.C.E. as a way of escaping their enemies. Others have suggested that the caves were formed at the same time as the mysterious Göbekli Tepe, during the Younger Dryas Event around 14,500 years ago. This theory suggests that when a comet broke apart within Earth's atmosphere, the dust and soot it expelled blocked out the sun for months, leading the world into an Ice Age. Therefore, ancient humans began living underground to avoid the frigid climate above.




https://curiosmos.com/five-amazing-hotographs-of-derinkuyu-largest-underground-city/#google_vignette
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Where is the evidence of AI from predecessor civilizations?


The speculation is that we’re seeing it in our skies. The predecessor civilization itself is likely currently being recycled in earth’s crust as we speak (as will ours). Y’all really think we live in “2025“. That perspective itself is a mutually accepted psyop.

The best article on this that I’ve come across is below:

Jake will be here a second to tell you that this academician is a loon/fraud…

https://www.bernardokastrup.com/2024/01/uaps-and-non-human-intelligence-what-is.html?m=1

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IF TERRESTRIAL BUT NOT HUMAN, THEN WHO? The idea that the intelligence behind the UAPs is terrestrial and ancient is itself not new. Dr. Hal Puthoff calls it the “ultra-terrestrial” hypothesis. He raises the possibility that remnants of a pre-Diluvial high-tech human civilisation—think of the Atlantis myth—may have survived at the end of the last ice age and remain active today, though discreet in their activities. The problem with this hypothesis is that any truly high-tech civilisation—unless it has moved underground very early, which may not be plausible due to difficulties related to the space required for industrial and logistical infrastructure, difficulties with waste management and pollution, etc.—leaves vast and long-lasting footprints on the terrain and environment, such as mining holes, landfills, urban infrastructure, artificial pollutants such as microplastics, etc. These footprints, though degraded, would have remained conspicuous enough over the period of only several thousand years since the last ice age. Yet, we find no such traces predating our own civilisation.

Because high technology development requires—at least at first—extensive industrial infrastructure, any ancient civilisation capable of technology as advanced as that in UAPs will almost inevitably have had to go through steps of industrialization and resource extraction analogous to ours, and then some. It will have had to go through phases of urbanization, mining of metals and burning of hydrocarbons, the construction of vast industrial parks, logistical/transport infrastructure, and so on. If the intelligence behind UAPs is terrestrial, it will thus need to be ancient enough for the associated footprints to have been almost completely erased by natural weather and geological processes. Yet, it will also need to be recent enough to already have had access to fossil hydrocarbons to fuel the early stages of its industrialization process. Are these seemingly conflicting constraints reconcilable? They are, as per the so-called “Silurian Hypothesis” first proposed by Gavin Schmidt and Adam Frank in a 2018 paper on the International Journal of Astrobiology. The idea is as follows: our planet has existed for about 4.5 billion years, with life on it for about 4 billion years. The genus Homo, to which we belong, has been around for less than 3 million of those 4 billion years; the blink of an eye in geological terms. And modern humans—Homo sapiens—for just 2 or 3 hundred thousand years. There is, thus, plenty of time and opportunity for other non-human species to have arisen on Earth, developed to a level of technology far beyond ours (imagine where our own science and technology will be in a mere thousand more years, if we don’t kill ourselves before that), and then to have effectively vanished due to one or more of the myriad possible civilisation-ending cataclysms that could end our own (climate change/collapse, comet/asteroid impact, pandemics, solar storms, thermonuclear war, etc.).

Any sign of abandoned urban and industrial infrastructure is unlikely to survive a period of only a few million years, due to weather erosion. Synthesized chemicals, alloys and other compounds, technological artefacts, as well as terrain signatures such as mining holes, are ultimately unlikely to survive the constant recycling of the Earth’s crust through plate tectonics. What is now the Earth’s crust will eventually sink into the molten asthenosphere and mantel beneath, where it will be reforged, just to eventually re-emerge through volcanic activity as a brand-new crust. As a rough estimate, if we assume an average plate movement of a few centimeters per year, it could take only tens of millions of years for large swathes of the Earth's crust—especially the ocean crust but, to a more limited degree, also the continental crust—to be recycled in this manner. No conspicuous remnants of an ancient, technological, nonhuman civilization would likely survive all this.
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Nope. Everyone of these people is a fraud.


Again, dismissive mental shortcuts. Everyone is just a fraud, Including high-level whistleblowers, who had verified positions in government (who come out and stated that these programs are real)

Video of his congressional testimony embedded at the link

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1kcn5iu/eric_davis_lays_out_the_classification_of_crash/

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Eric Davis lays out the classification of crash retrievals "more sensitive than the Manhattan Project" how it's hidden from congressional oversight and how his involvement led to be included in Grusch's whisleblower complaint.
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There are no aliens or interdimensional beings present on Earth.


Lazy thinking

It is not likely just one thing. Unlikely to be from other planets (I concur). Interdimensional remains a consideration as they can be both here and there (some have foretold that their greatest tricks are making you think that they don’t exist)

You leave out the possibility of ultraterrestrial or remnant AI technology from predecessor civilizations that have gone extinct or underground/underwater
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You're still waiting for those big reveals that were certainly about to happen for the last 15 years


Like open testimony in Congressional Hearings today stating that we have crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs that were designed to be more secure than the Manhattan Project by Presidential orders (and be beyond Congressional oversight)

Nothing is happening because you / we live in a controlled reality with classified science and incomplete datasets that hinders sense making (parallel reality)
2017

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/ny-times-pentagons-ufo-program---aerospace-esoteric-quantum-mechanics-future/74223344/

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NY Times: Pentagon’s UFO Program - aerospace/esoteric/quantum mechanics/future Posted by ThinePreparedAni 12/16/17 at 4:25 pm


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Earlier this year, a Michigan State University economist, working with graduate students and a former government official, found $21 trillion in unauthorized spending in the departments of Defense and Housing and Urban Development for the years 1998-2015. The work of Mark Skidmore and his team, which included digging into government websites and repeated queries to U.S. agencies that went unanswered, coincided with the Office of Inspector General, at one point, disabling the links to all key documents showing the unsupported spending. (Luckily, the researchers downloaded and stored the documents.) Now, the Department of Defense has announced it will conduct the first department-wide, independent financial audit in its history (read the Dec. 7 announcement here). The Defense Department did not say specifically what led to the audit. But the announcement came four days after Skidmore discussed his team’s findings on USAWatchdog, a news outlet run by former CNN and ABC News correspondent Greg Hunter.
Beyond oversight
Parallel reality

Video of his congressional testimony embedded at the link

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1kcn5iu/eric_davis_lays_out_the_classification_of_crash/

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Eric Davis lays out the classification of crash retrievals "more sensitive than the Manhattan Project" how it's hidden from congressional oversight and how his involvement led to be included in Grusch's whisleblower complaint.
Transnational entity that overrides and corrupts every aspect of our existence.

Parallel reality…


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAxI-LDrDqA

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Immaculate Constellation - UFO Whistleblower Goes Public : WEAPONIZED : Episode #74 : PART 1 Jeremy Corbell 20K Likes 366,202 Views Apr 29 2025

In 2024, an enigmatic term began to percolate among a small group of UAP investigators. The name was "Immaculate Constellation." Anyone who dared to even utter that term would put their own lives at risk, according to persons familiar with the program. "ImCon”, the abbreviated version of the term, was brought to the attention of Congress. Members were told it was a cover term for an Unacknowledged Special Access Program housed within the executive branch, specifically under the control of the White House. ImCon was supposedly a highly secretive program that relied on artificial intelligence to secretly scour classified servers used by the U.S. military and its intelligence agencies to search for and snatch images of UAP encounters. A report about ImCon, written by an unknown policy advisor, was provided to Congress by Jeremy Corbell months prior to the start of a 2024 public hearing before a House subcommittee. The anonymous author of the report, who had been surreptitiously introduced to key House members by Corbell, had indicated he was willing to testify if requested to do so. A very curious series of events unfolded at the hearing, but in the end, the source of the Immaculate Constellation report was largely ignored, and the origin of the report itself was grossly distorted by members. A spokesperson for the Pentagon denied that any program by that name had ever existed within the Department of Defense. After many months of excruciating discussion and debate, the author of the ImCon report is now ready to reveal what he knows, how he knows it, and who he is. In this episode of WEAPONIZED (Part 1 of 3), Jeremy and George speak face-to-face with the previously anonymous source of the ImCon report. The person who wrote the report explains where he worked and in what capacities, how he was first exposed to the term Immaculate Constellation, and why he made the decision to come forward, in spite of what could be very serious repercussions.
DUMBs
STFs (subterranean facilities)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ats0lIy3Lo&pp=0gcJCYQJAYcqIYzv

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Deep Underground Military Bases (D.U.M.Bs.) - UFO Legacy Programs UAP Gerb 3.2K Likes 61,133 Views Mar 17 2025 #skunkworks #projectbluebook #usaf

A deep dive into the subject of UFO legacy programs and Deep Underground Military Bases (D.U.M.Bs.) sometimes also referred to as Subterranean Facilities (STFs). Whether it be MS and the Dugway D.U.M.B., the Off-World Technologies Division under NSWC Crane, or the Northrop Tejon and Lockheed Helendale RCS facilities, the subject of clandestine, deep-sixed, underground military bases arises frequently in this channel's investigations. This project serves to investigate acknowledged underground sites as well as unacknowledged underground sites possibly used for UFO RDT&E, and analyze and evaluate decades of persisting rumors of deep underground tunnel networks and Maglev train transportation systems connecting these deep sites. This investigation aims to evaluate claims of underground networks of UFO legacy program-related STFs through analysis of the work of Dr. Richard Sauder and his 3 excellent, fact-driven books on D.U.M.Bs., research by tremendous UFO researchers such as Bill Hamilton and Leonard Stringfield, witness testimony, and myriad technical documents stemming from US Army Corps of Engineers, the RAND Corporation, Bechtel, TRW, BDM, and more. As always, I will post links and research materials that aided in this investigation. For the subject of D.U.M.Bs., I plan to post a host of research documents, including links to every single technical report mentioned in this project and Dr. Sauder's books alongside my usual research links. This process will take some time, so please check back to this video for multiple links to a file filled with links, notes, and studies.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w0mimIp8mr8&list=PLBY3rXeVPzfpX1pEqP3IOQJyfLAelF7he&index=6&pp=iAQB

The Black Budget | Catherine Austin Fitts

secretspaceprogram

Catherine Austin Fitts at the Secret Space Program Conference, 2014 San Mateo

2016 called
TPA told y’all about this back then…

Parallel reality…
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fantasy land


Mainstream, modern living is just that

Sad, but true

Buckle up once the “real truths” come out…
I vaguely recall a small thread where metabolic health along with unconventional politics were discussed…
The conversation below supports many of the speculation here in this thread:

Knowledge of an alien presence contributed to JFK assassination

A governor was placed on science. Many aspects of science have been classified for “national security”

The political narrative that has been told since the 30s is an incomplete rendering of reality.

The others may be native to the Earth and live underground/under the oceans. Debunking “extraterrestrials” is a way of hand waving away many things due to semantics/legalese.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=09KP8XVf5nY&t=12265s&pp=2AHpX5ACAQ%3D%3D

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Presidential Advisor: “I Directly Handled UFO Material” (Ft. Harald Malmgren)
362K views · 4 days ago...more Jesse Michels 326K


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Join us for a special episode with former presidential advisor Harald Malmgren. A 27 year old Harald Malmgren literally saved the world from nuclear catastrophe during The Cuban Missile Crisis when Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and President JFK asked him to “buy time for diplomacy” by facing off against General Curtis “Bombs Away” LeMay. Malmgren, the youngest of the “whiz kids”, went on to become a presidential advisor not just to JFK, but LBJ, Nixon and Ford. He had a personal relationship with Putin and advised every Japanese Prime Minister since Tanaka in the 70’s, Giscard d’Estaing, Pompidou and others. He was assigned to “contain” Kissinger and worked closely with Howard Baker, George Schulz, Volcker and Mondale not to mention Nobel Prize winners Tom Schelling and Sir John Hicks. Unusually, he had ALL the so called Q Clearances. 1. He held UFO (or UAP) material directly. This material came out of the plume of a nuclear test called Bluegill Triple Prime conducted at Johnston Atoll in the Marshall Islands in 1962. It was handed to him by Lawrence Preston Gise, director of the Albuquerque branch of the Atomic Energy Commission. 2. The Deputy Director of Plans for the CIA and the man who built and designed Area51, Richard Bissell, briefed Malmgren on “otherworld technologies”. This includes past crash retrievals like the Magenta crash in Lombardy, Italy in 1933 along with broader awareness of UFO appearances around tip of the spear technology development at sensitive Department of Energy sites across the country. 3. That a member of foreign intelligence sent Harald information on a secret antigravity-related collaboration between Tesla and Thomas Townsend Brown. 4. He told his daughter Pippa off air in his final hours that there had been UFO crash survivors (biologics) and he was shown a video of the “sole surviving extraterrestrial being” from one such crash (Roswell). 5. Malmgren says point blank that he believes JFK knew about UFOs long before becoming president (from his history in Naval Intelligence). He and LBJ raced out to Los Alamos right after Blugill Triple Prime to be briefed in person. He says that JFK’s desire to collaborate with the Soviets on UFOs, space exploration and denuclearization were core parts of the impetus to assassinate him. 6. Malmgren discusses the “Majestic” - the group who took it upon themselves to “protect” the world. They tracked him from a young age, he says. This is the first time anyone of this caliber has mentioned this name which is mostly associated with document leaks in the 80’s and 90’s that outline an “elite of the elite” military, intelligence and scientific group governing the UFO issue. Harald is a hero who saved the world (and more than once). There was more he held back and that he took to his grave. He was an angel amongst devils and his legacy should make all world leaders think twice, reflect and “lower the temperature” on the world stage when contemplating brinksmanship. We are extremely grateful to Harald’s incredible daughter Pippa Malmgren for co-hosting this discussion. She was Special Assistant to President Bush and a member of The National Economic Council and a very heterodox thinker in her own right. She set the whole discussion up and we’re forever indebted for her entrusting us to help tell Harald’s story. She said that Bissell told my Dad - “because you’ll need to pass it along in the future at the right time”. At 89, she knew her father in turn had to relay this vital information, this time, on a broader stage as our multipolar nuclear world remains stuck in old paradigms. Australian Intelligence Analyst Geoffrey Cruikshank, who has gone deeper than anyone in the world on analyzing the Bluegill Triple Prime Test UFO incident, also conferred with Harald Malmgren to confirm the veracity of his foundational research. His research was essential to this piece. Rest in peace Harald Bernard Malmgren (July 13th 1935 - February 13th 2025
The conversation below supports many of the speculation here in this thread:

Knowledge of an alien presence contributed to JFK assassination

A governor was placed on science. Many aspects of science have been classified for “national security”

The political narrative that has been told since the 30s is an incomplete rendering of reality.

The others may be native to the Earth and live underground/under the oceans. Debunking “extraterrestrials” is a way of hand waving away many things due to semantics/legalese.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=09KP8XVf5nY&t=12265s&pp=2AHpX5ACAQ%3D%3D

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Presidential Advisor: “I Directly Handled UFO Material” (Ft. Harald Malmgren)
362K views · 4 days ago...more Jesse Michels 326K


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Join us for a special episode with former presidential advisor Harald Malmgren. A 27 year old Harald Malmgren literally saved the world from nuclear catastrophe during The Cuban Missile Crisis when Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and President JFK asked him to “buy time for diplomacy” by facing off against General Curtis “Bombs Away” LeMay. Malmgren, the youngest of the “whiz kids”, went on to become a presidential advisor not just to JFK, but LBJ, Nixon and Ford. He had a personal relationship with Putin and advised every Japanese Prime Minister since Tanaka in the 70’s, Giscard d’Estaing, Pompidou and others. He was assigned to “contain” Kissinger and worked closely with Howard Baker, George Schulz, Volcker and Mondale not to mention Nobel Prize winners Tom Schelling and Sir John Hicks. Unusually, he had ALL the so called Q Clearances. 1. He held UFO (or UAP) material directly. This material came out of the plume of a nuclear test called Bluegill Triple Prime conducted at Johnston Atoll in the Marshall Islands in 1962. It was handed to him by Lawrence Preston Gise, director of the Albuquerque branch of the Atomic Energy Commission. 2. The Deputy Director of Plans for the CIA and the man who built and designed Area51, Richard Bissell, briefed Malmgren on “otherworld technologies”. This includes past crash retrievals like the Magenta crash in Lombardy, Italy in 1933 along with broader awareness of UFO appearances around tip of the spear technology development at sensitive Department of Energy sites across the country. 3. That a member of foreign intelligence sent Harald information on a secret antigravity-related collaboration between Tesla and Thomas Townsend Brown. 4. He told his daughter Pippa off air in his final hours that there had been UFO crash survivors (biologics) and he was shown a video of the “sole surviving extraterrestrial being” from one such crash (Roswell). 5. Malmgren says point blank that he believes JFK knew about UFOs long before becoming president (from his history in Naval Intelligence). He and LBJ raced out to Los Alamos right after Blugill Triple Prime to be briefed in person. He says that JFK’s desire to collaborate with the Soviets on UFOs, space exploration and denuclearization were core parts of the impetus to assassinate him. 6. Malmgren discusses the “Majestic” - the group who took it upon themselves to “protect” the world. They tracked him from a young age, he says. This is the first time anyone of this caliber has mentioned this name which is mostly associated with document leaks in the 80’s and 90’s that outline an “elite of the elite” military, intelligence and scientific group governing the UFO issue. Harald is a hero who saved the world (and more than once). There was more he held back and that he took to his grave. He was an angel amongst devils and his legacy should make all world leaders think twice, reflect and “lower the temperature” on the world stage when contemplating brinksmanship. We are extremely grateful to Harald’s incredible daughter Pippa Malmgren for co-hosting this discussion. She was Special Assistant to President Bush and a member of The National Economic Council and a very heterodox thinker in her own right. She set the whole discussion up and we’re forever indebted for her entrusting us to help tell Harald’s story. She said that Bissell told my Dad - “because you’ll need to pass it along in the future at the right time”. At 89, she knew her father in turn had to relay this vital information, this time, on a broader stage as our multipolar nuclear world remains stuck in old paradigms. Australian Intelligence Analyst Geoffrey Cruikshank, who has gone deeper than anyone in the world on analyzing the Bluegill Triple Prime Test UFO incident, also conferred with Harald Malmgren to confirm the veracity of his foundational research. His research was essential to this piece. Rest in peace Harald Bernard Malmgren (July 13th 1935 - February 13th 2025
Every opportunity you electively engage in should, on balance, enrich the life of the participant and those around them.

Travel sports for youths and families typically violates that

Overlooked issues:

-disruptied circadian hygiene - late nights, bright lights, and no rest on the weekend are very problematic for developing kids/teens

-health of family and participants compromised - “on the road lifestyle”, poor eating selections (convenient processed food), erratic sleep schedule/environment

Modeling professionals is problematic as the typical youth and family do not have the luxuries that professionals have: schedule flexibility during the day, resources for rest and recovery (good food and smart training) and support staff.

What you get is an interstate of broken dreams, unhealthy families who have neglected themselves while chasing unrealistic dreams, and ironically, a generation of kids who will likely do the same thing to their kids (while the travel ball industry and medical industrial complex continue to profit).
I told yall all that these disparate things are all related/connected…

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/feb/11/congress-creates-task-force-investigate-uaps-covid/

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Congress creates task force to look into UAPs, COVID origins, JFK assassination, Epstein client list
I told yall all that these disparate things are all related/connected…

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/feb/11/congress-creates-task-force-investigate-uaps-covid/

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Congress creates task force to look into UAPs, COVID origins, JFK assassination, Epstein client list