Tiger in NY

The air show is in Pensacola this weekend. They are practicing.

Weber durability sucks, especially in salt air. Napoleon makes a superior gas grill. I have a Rogue Pro and love it after the first few months. The base is much sturdier than the Webers I have had.

The best white American athletes are playing football and baseball. Guys like George Kittle, Dylan Ctrews, and Bobby Witt Jr are just as good athletically as any white Euro.

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He's 6'3" and one of the best defenders in the world. I watch him every week because he plays for the team I follow.

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Everybody is the best at something until someone bigger, faster, stronger, and with a higher sports IQ comes along

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Our best athletes arent going to play soccer because they wont get extremely wealthy playing soccer.

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Top soccer players make top NFL qb money, and there are about 1000 soccer players in the world making over $1 million per year.

The top ~250 soccer players all make over $10 million per year.

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If soccer was the main sport, we’d be producing guys who are both elite athletically in every way that makes up a great sportsman, while also being elite in the skills department. In every position on the field.

2. People mostly just talk about NFL and NBA players. Think of all of the thousands and thousands of very athletic and skilled players who may have made fantastic soccer players but either never made it to the NBA or NFL or washed out quickly because they were only 5’10” and 180 lbs. So many players out there never grew into the size required to play in the NFL or NBA yet would be been the perfect size for soccer.

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Exactly this. Put every young baseball, football, and basketball athlete into a soccer bucket and see who rises to the top. The argument against is completely ludacris.

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very basic sport

Hmmm

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Yet guys like Ed Reed and Troy Polomalu could never have been good at it.

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Very few, if any, teams intentionally put slow players at winger or fullback

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shite, I think I would have taken prime Ed Reed with zero soccer training over Ream the other night. Just told him to "mark this guy"

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He’s actually probably one of the worst examples to use for this argument as the things that actually made him a legend (IQ, vision, and preparation) aren’t a function of athleticism. His return excellence was a function of the same skillset, certainly not his below average speed

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So you do believe there are athletes with the characteristics that make up a great soccer player that aren't playing soccer. Interesting.

Its almost like he would be a more athletic version of Tim Ream.

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the training and culture improved to compete with the best of Europe, then Russell Westbrook vs Weston McKennie might matter

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Bingo.

I would also add that even with the exact same level of training I bet Ed Reed would be better thhan Tim Ream at defending.

Kobe was very modest. If he said, "

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 I would have moments of doing something crazy that really wasn't done on purpose. I'd pull off a nice move that was unintentional

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then I suspect he may have had a little more soccer talent than he is letting on.

Regardless, the point is not that Kobe or Lebron as specific individuals would be the ones to make it. The point is that the US has a huge pool of elite athletes like that to put in the bucket and see who rises to the top.