WashRSkins

You do realize that not every NP feels this way right? We don't all go around wearing long white coats trying to act like MDs. I was required to get a white coat and place my credentials on it. If I had a choice, I wouldn't wear one.

Not every NP is for this, some of us understand our limitations.

So you are agreeing with me? I'm pretty sure I'm trying to say the same thing. Just making sure my post was clear.

I replied in this thread earlier but I'll say a few more things since its still going.

I'm a new grad Nurse Practitioner. I will be starting my new job in June as a NP in the ER. I have almost 10 years as a RN in the ER and I'm comfortable as a RN but the training I went through in NP school has not prepared me to practice in the ER or anywhere independently. Actually I think my experience as an ER Nurse has me more prepared. I'm already stressing about all of the things I do not know. I chose this so I can practice under the supervision of more experienced MDs. I'm hoping to use the first few years of working as a NP as an on the job residency to learn more and even then I would want the ability to ask questions and consult others with certain cases I wouldn't be confident with.

In my opinion, the bill being proposed should not pass. It needs to be amended to add more collaborating practice hours but it shouldn't stop there. The NP program needs to be re-structured. The curriculum has several nursing theory classes and research classes that do not prepare you to actually practice medicine. NPs still take patho, pharmacology, and health assessment classes, I actually had patho, physiology, anatomy, and pharmacology classes to get a Bachelor's in nursing as well. The NP classes were more in depth. Also I actually did have a cadaver with the med students in nursing school. I'm getting off topic but basically the graduate nursing schools need to raise the standards for acceptance to graduate school. You should have a minimum of 5 years as a RN with a bachelor's degree before you can even be considered. It seems like they are just pumping people through these schools like crazy. There's no way I would trust some of the people I graduated with to make decisions about my healthcare without oversight from someone else. They just don't have the experience. I don't even trust myself making these decisions right now without supervision. It's what I signed up for, I don't know why it suddenly needs to change.

Well then I didn't realize that. Either way I'm not disagreeing with you. I agree more hours of training and clinical work is necessary but I didn't write the bill.

I also agree that some of these NPs/DNPs are way crazy with this shite and need to take a step back and remember their role in healthcare. It should be a team effort.

Did any of you actually read the bill? You can't just graduate from an online NP school and start practicing where ever you want. I recently graduated NP school. The training was not even remotely close to what MDs receive. I'm not trying to be a doctor. I've worked as an RN in the ER for almost 10 years and I know I don't know everything. I'll be starting work as an NP in an ER soon and I am happy to have physician supervision, I wouldn't want to work without it.

But some of you docs are acting like NPs are uneducated med school rejects. This is from the bill

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(2) Has experience as recognized by the board to be no less than two thousand hours in collaborative practice.

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nurse practitioners, clinical nurse specialists, and certified nurse midwives who practice in a parish designated wholly or in part as a primary care health shortage area as set forth under Section 332 of the Public Health Services Act, as determined by the UnitedStatesDepartment of Health and Human Services, Health Resources and 5 Services Administration.

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I know 2000 clinical hours doesn't compare to med school or residency but it's something. Honestly I'm not even in favor of the bill. I'm indifferent because it won't effect where I want to work, but some of you really sound like cocky a-holes in this thread

Had a chick tell me the exact same thing a few months ago. Still haven't figured out what she meant by it. She didn't seem that crazy though.

Where's the Alan Jackson concert ?

You plan on going, BigBerg ?

So as long as there's no "cocks" involved we should be good... :cool:

Quarterman just jumped over that dudes head

Looks like one of those padded wrestling helmet things