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re: Coach O - Killing Me
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 10/2/26 at 6:24 pm to Paul Allen
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Aside from Nick Saban, Coach O is the best thing that has ever happened to this program.
Soley bc he convinced Burrow crawfish were good. It was lightning in a bottle and I’ll always remember it fondly.
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re: CFB various games thread Friday 9/25/26
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/25/26 at 10:19 pm to GeauxPanthers2
10:30 on a Friday…. No one will notice.
But seriously, WTF
But seriously, WTF
re: National Gasoline Avg up $0.18 week over week; Diesel up $0.31; WTI & Brent down currently
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/21/26 at 12:58 pm to ragincajun03
Please go look at all the refineries record profits. They are the problem. They’ve intentionally NOT made any effort to expand or (gasp) build a new refinery…whatsoever. And in fact have made the decision to shut down refineries. The lumber yards have done the same thing. I’m not saying they have “colluded” to do this, but they are all in sync.
The government needs to step in, through a loan guarantee, permitting or some kind of SPR guarantee. Otherwise they’re just going to sit in their hands until we have a major problem
The government needs to step in, through a loan guarantee, permitting or some kind of SPR guarantee. Otherwise they’re just going to sit in their hands until we have a major problem
re: We need hype videos again
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/18/26 at 9:18 am to CatsGoneWild
Whoever is behind this makes some solid ones Drunk Lane Kiffin
re: An Open Letter to Rebel Nation
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/15/26 at 4:43 am to PlaySomeHonk
AI slop is the worst
re: Window and Door replacement in BR
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/14/26 at 9:39 pm to CP3
Pella
re: Oil Executives: Fuel Crisis is here
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/14/26 at 9:06 pm to Tigerfan1274
This would not be nearly as bad had the greedy refiners not decided to artificially limit their capacity. fricking assholes. Same with the lumber mills
re: The Jeep rubber ducky thing..
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/14/26 at 8:51 am to LSUballs
quote:put it in the garbage
Speaking of, what do I do with it?
re: Anthropic CEO calls for slowdown in the race to develop AI
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/12/26 at 10:48 am to NIH
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Claude is already far ahead of the competition
Yes, you’re kind of proving my point… I’m sure he wants to stay that way… and astra seems like a pretty big leap for chat FWIW.
re: Anthropic CEO calls for slowdown in the race to develop AI
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/12/26 at 10:25 am to RLDSC FAN
The problem is we don’t know if these PEOPLE themselves can be trusted. Is he saying this and actually doing this himself or is he trying to get ahead of the competition? Everything they have put in front of us says the latter.
re: Get Ted Cruz off the set
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/12/26 at 9:04 am to King of New Orleans
Typical TigerRant retardation… bash politicians for doing nothing…. Then bash them when they are “because they’re just pandering” aka doing what the voters want.
re: Pete Golding is going to melt under the spotlight
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/10/26 at 2:38 pm to mule74
He already has…
re: Elko giving LSU some bulletin material
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/10/26 at 2:37 pm to cajuntiger1010
What a fat fricking slob.
re: LSU will not get voted out. Sankey/SEC is sending a message and establishing framework
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/8/26 at 1:58 pm to sidewalkside
I agree… and it’s unfortunate they couldn’t do their job from the beginning and establish framework for the class of 2022 from the get go. Pathetic bunch of teet sucking leeches.
re: Sark confirms Hutson is “technically ineligible”, but “different” than LSU
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/8/26 at 1:57 pm to Fun Bunch
Gettin dem crawfish ready:lol:
re: Here is copy of Amended Complaint. All 55 pages.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/8/26 at 1:21 pm to TigerDeBaiter
Chambliss is a non-starter. He never went pro. His fight was with the NCAA over a medical redshirt for a sixth year — a Mississippi judge ruled he clearly met the criteria for a medical redshirt and that the NCAA ignored medical evidence in denying his waiver. That's an eligibility-clock dispute, not a professionalism-rule dispute. The SEC's rule is about signing a contract or appearing on a pro roster; Chambliss did neither. LSU fans keep raising it, but even Ole Miss's own media had to explain the difference to Landry.
ESPN
Hutson is the real gray area — and it's narrower than it looks. He went undrafted, was invited to Cowboys minicamp but did not land a contract, and also had a brief stint with the Browns. His return came through a lawsuit against the NCAA in Travis County and a federal judge's class ruling on fifth-year eligibility. Now read the SEC's own trigger language from the Aug 25 policy statement (¶62 of the complaint): declared and didn't withdraw, signed a contract, or listed on a roster. Tryout invitees aren't on the 90-man roster and Hutson never signed. Harris and Wright signed contracts and were rostered. As written, Texas is inside the line and LSU is outside it.
That said, LSU's lawyers should absolutely use Hutson. Two reasons:
-The complaint's own summary (¶4, ¶43) describes the rules as covering anyone who "entered a professional draft," and Hutson was draft-eligible and worked out for two teams. The SEC is being precise when it needs to be and loose when it helps.
-Texas's president voted yes on Aug 25 with Hutson already on his roster and nobody in Birmingham said a word. That's the fact pattern that makes "we're just protecting our values" look like "we're protecting our values from LSU."
So why LSU? Not because of who's on the roster — because of how it was done. Texas quietly kept a fifth-year lineman after a class-action ruling. Kiffin publicly recruited players under NFL contract, allegedly solicited the lawsuit that freed them, announced a "poster child," and mocked the rule on national TV during a game. The 15 presidents aren't reacting to a roster spot; they're reacting to a member's coach openly working to dismantle a rule they'd just unanimously reaffirmed, with the governor and AG backing him.
That's not a great legal answer to selective enforcement, but it's the true one. And it's why I'd expect Thursday to land on conduct and institutional control rather than the professionalism rule itself — because on the rule alone, Hutson makes the SEC's position uncomfortable.
ESPN
Hutson is the real gray area — and it's narrower than it looks. He went undrafted, was invited to Cowboys minicamp but did not land a contract, and also had a brief stint with the Browns. His return came through a lawsuit against the NCAA in Travis County and a federal judge's class ruling on fifth-year eligibility. Now read the SEC's own trigger language from the Aug 25 policy statement (¶62 of the complaint): declared and didn't withdraw, signed a contract, or listed on a roster. Tryout invitees aren't on the 90-man roster and Hutson never signed. Harris and Wright signed contracts and were rostered. As written, Texas is inside the line and LSU is outside it.
That said, LSU's lawyers should absolutely use Hutson. Two reasons:
-The complaint's own summary (¶4, ¶43) describes the rules as covering anyone who "entered a professional draft," and Hutson was draft-eligible and worked out for two teams. The SEC is being precise when it needs to be and loose when it helps.
-Texas's president voted yes on Aug 25 with Hutson already on his roster and nobody in Birmingham said a word. That's the fact pattern that makes "we're just protecting our values" look like "we're protecting our values from LSU."
So why LSU? Not because of who's on the roster — because of how it was done. Texas quietly kept a fifth-year lineman after a class-action ruling. Kiffin publicly recruited players under NFL contract, allegedly solicited the lawsuit that freed them, announced a "poster child," and mocked the rule on national TV during a game. The 15 presidents aren't reacting to a roster spot; they're reacting to a member's coach openly working to dismantle a rule they'd just unanimously reaffirmed, with the governor and AG backing him.
That's not a great legal answer to selective enforcement, but it's the true one. And it's why I'd expect Thursday to land on conduct and institutional control rather than the professionalism rule itself — because on the rule alone, Hutson makes the SEC's position uncomfortable.
re: Here is copy of Amended Complaint. All 55 pages.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/8/26 at 1:13 pm to TigerDeBaiter
more...This is mostly posturing — but posturing with a live gun on the table. Expulsion this week is a low-single-digit outcome; something real coming out of Thursday is not.
My odds
Outright expulsion on Sept 10: ~5%. Every credible source is signaling the SEC won't pull the trigger. The reason is math, not sentiment: Texas/Oklahoma just got added to fill an expanded ESPN deal, and cutting a top-five brand mid-contract exposes every member to media-rights renegotiation. The SEC also needs LSU on the schedule this weekend. Note, though, that CBS reported the votes were believed to be there if LSU refused to de-escalate — so it's not a bluff with no bullets.
A formal vote with a suspended or conditional outcome (probation, forfeiture triggers, tied to LSU never rostering Harris/Wright): ~50%. This is the most likely landing. It lets the presidents put a real consequence on paper, gives Rousse and Ausberry political cover to rein in Kiffin, and stays outside the Louisiana injunction because it's framed as association terms, not a penalty.
Meeting happens, strong statement, no binding action, dispute drags into the courts through October: ~40%. Also very plausible. The federal TRO alone gives the SEC most of what it wants: a ruling that Louisiana courts can't stop the SEC from governing itself.
Meeting gets enjoined by the 19th JDC before Thursday: ~5–10%. Murrill and the Pyburn lawyers might try, but a Louisiana judge enjoining a private association's membership meeting in Alabama is a big overreach even for a home-cooking court.
What breaks the stalemate
-Kiffin already blinked once — he held Harris and Wright out of Clemson "in the best interests of the team." That's the tell that LSU's leadership can still find the brake pedal when it counts.
-The real variable is Landry. As long as the governor treats this as a Louisiana-vs-the-establishment fight, Rousse can't fully de-escalate without political cost. If Landry's rhetoric cools this week, expect a quiet resolution.
-If Kiffin actually rosters the two players before Saturday, all of the above shifts hard — expulsion moves from 5% to something real.
What it means for you
Nothing structural changes for Baton Rouge in the near term — LSU is playing SEC football this fall regardless. The lasting damage is reputational and governance-related: LSU has spent a lot of institutional capital with fifteen peer presidents over a tight end and a defensive tackle, and Rousse is a new president who now looks like he can't control his coach. That's the story that outlasts this week.
Short answer: no — and it's the one motive that would actually hurt them.
Why the incentive runs the other way
-LSU makes the other 15 schools money. It's a top-five brand, a guaranteed sellout road game, and a strength-of-schedule asset for playoff seeding. Kicking it out shrinks the pie for everyone; nobody's athletic department gets richer.
-The media deal is priced on 16 members including LSU. ESPN would have a renegotiation opening, and the presidents know it.
-Louisiana is a top recruiting state. Alabama, Texas A&M, and Ole Miss want LSU in-conference precisely so they can keep raiding it on the recruiting trail with SEC branding.
Why they legally can't even hint at it
-The whole complaint is built on the First Amendment "expressive association" theory specifically to keep this out of commercial territory. Post-Alston, the moment a conference vote looks like a commercial decision to eliminate a competitor, it's a Sherman Act counterclaim — and Murrill would file it before the meeting adjourned. Any president who said "vote them out, it clears our path" on the record would be handing LSU the case.
-That's also why the complaint repeats "lack of institutional control" and "values" so many times. It's not rhetoric; it's the antitrust shield.
Where competitive self-interest does show up
-Not in removing LSU, but in stopping the tactic. If Kiffin's NFL-returnee pipeline works, every other coach has to match it next year or lose ground. The presidents are protecting themselves from an arms race, not from LSU.
-The grudge factor is real — Ole Miss watched Kiffin walk out the door and then poach two of its former players via lawsuit — but grudges get expressed as harsh probation terms, not expulsion.
If anything, the competitive angle points toward a firm slap and a fast reconciliation. They need the Tigers on the schedule more than they need to make a point.
My odds
Outright expulsion on Sept 10: ~5%. Every credible source is signaling the SEC won't pull the trigger. The reason is math, not sentiment: Texas/Oklahoma just got added to fill an expanded ESPN deal, and cutting a top-five brand mid-contract exposes every member to media-rights renegotiation. The SEC also needs LSU on the schedule this weekend. Note, though, that CBS reported the votes were believed to be there if LSU refused to de-escalate — so it's not a bluff with no bullets.
A formal vote with a suspended or conditional outcome (probation, forfeiture triggers, tied to LSU never rostering Harris/Wright): ~50%. This is the most likely landing. It lets the presidents put a real consequence on paper, gives Rousse and Ausberry political cover to rein in Kiffin, and stays outside the Louisiana injunction because it's framed as association terms, not a penalty.
Meeting happens, strong statement, no binding action, dispute drags into the courts through October: ~40%. Also very plausible. The federal TRO alone gives the SEC most of what it wants: a ruling that Louisiana courts can't stop the SEC from governing itself.
Meeting gets enjoined by the 19th JDC before Thursday: ~5–10%. Murrill and the Pyburn lawyers might try, but a Louisiana judge enjoining a private association's membership meeting in Alabama is a big overreach even for a home-cooking court.
What breaks the stalemate
-Kiffin already blinked once — he held Harris and Wright out of Clemson "in the best interests of the team." That's the tell that LSU's leadership can still find the brake pedal when it counts.
-The real variable is Landry. As long as the governor treats this as a Louisiana-vs-the-establishment fight, Rousse can't fully de-escalate without political cost. If Landry's rhetoric cools this week, expect a quiet resolution.
-If Kiffin actually rosters the two players before Saturday, all of the above shifts hard — expulsion moves from 5% to something real.
What it means for you
Nothing structural changes for Baton Rouge in the near term — LSU is playing SEC football this fall regardless. The lasting damage is reputational and governance-related: LSU has spent a lot of institutional capital with fifteen peer presidents over a tight end and a defensive tackle, and Rousse is a new president who now looks like he can't control his coach. That's the story that outlasts this week.
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is there a chance they vote out of the interest of eliminating competition?
Short answer: no — and it's the one motive that would actually hurt them.
Why the incentive runs the other way
-LSU makes the other 15 schools money. It's a top-five brand, a guaranteed sellout road game, and a strength-of-schedule asset for playoff seeding. Kicking it out shrinks the pie for everyone; nobody's athletic department gets richer.
-The media deal is priced on 16 members including LSU. ESPN would have a renegotiation opening, and the presidents know it.
-Louisiana is a top recruiting state. Alabama, Texas A&M, and Ole Miss want LSU in-conference precisely so they can keep raiding it on the recruiting trail with SEC branding.
Why they legally can't even hint at it
-The whole complaint is built on the First Amendment "expressive association" theory specifically to keep this out of commercial territory. Post-Alston, the moment a conference vote looks like a commercial decision to eliminate a competitor, it's a Sherman Act counterclaim — and Murrill would file it before the meeting adjourned. Any president who said "vote them out, it clears our path" on the record would be handing LSU the case.
-That's also why the complaint repeats "lack of institutional control" and "values" so many times. It's not rhetoric; it's the antitrust shield.
Where competitive self-interest does show up
-Not in removing LSU, but in stopping the tactic. If Kiffin's NFL-returnee pipeline works, every other coach has to match it next year or lose ground. The presidents are protecting themselves from an arms race, not from LSU.
-The grudge factor is real — Ole Miss watched Kiffin walk out the door and then poach two of its former players via lawsuit — but grudges get expressed as harsh probation terms, not expulsion.
If anything, the competitive angle points toward a firm slap and a fast reconciliation. They need the Tigers on the schedule more than they need to make a point.
re: Here is copy of Amended Complaint. All 55 pages.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/8/26 at 1:05 pm to prplhze2000
Dumped into Claude, without context...
Bottom line: The SEC just built itself an off-ramp. The Louisiana injunction blocks it from penalizing LSU, so the conference is reframing expulsion as "expressive disassociation" — a right, not a penalty — and asking a federal judge to stop anyone from blocking the Thursday vote. It's a leverage play far more than an expulsion plan.
What's new versus the Sept 3 complaint
-Names only individuals in official capacity (Rousse, Ausberry, Kiffin, all 18 Board members) plus AG Murrill — sidesteps LSU's sovereign immunity via Ex parte Young.
-Formally notices a Section 3.1.5 termination vote for Sept 10; two-thirds of 16 CEOs (11 votes) required.
-Seeks a TRO barring defendants "and persons in active concert" (explicitly the Pyburn plaintiffs) from suing to block or unwind that vote — essentially trying to pre-empt the 19th JDC.
Core theory: expulsion isn't rule enforcement (which the Louisiana court enjoined), it's a First Amendment right to disassociate under Roberts and Boy Scouts v. Dale.
The tell
¶94 says the meeting happens "whether LSU renounces its intention to roster... or not." That's a negotiating posture, not a settled intent to expel. Every outlet reporting on it — ESPN, for one — says the SEC is not expected to actually take such action.
¶87–88 confirms LSU held two roster spots open and can still add Harris and Wright post-deadline. The whole thing turns on whether Kiffin plays them Saturday.
Where the SEC's case is weak
It's asking a federal court in Alabama to restrain parties from litigating in a Louisiana state court that already has jurisdiction. That's an Anti-Injunction Act problem the complaint doesn't address, and federal judges dislike that request.
The Dale theory treats a 93-year business relationship among public universities as a Boy Scout troop. Novel, and a nine-figure media contract makes "expressive association" a harder sell.
Rousse voted for the policy statement on Aug 25. The SEC is using that against LSU (lack of institutional control), but it also undercuts the claim that LSU as an institution is forcing anything on the conference — it's Kiffin.
What to watch Thursday
Whether the 19th JDC enters the written PI order today and whether it expands scope to cover the vote itself.
Whether Judge Axon rules on the TRO before Thursday morning.
Whether the "vote" becomes a probation/conditions resolution instead — that's the most likely landing spot.
Bottom line: The SEC just built itself an off-ramp. The Louisiana injunction blocks it from penalizing LSU, so the conference is reframing expulsion as "expressive disassociation" — a right, not a penalty — and asking a federal judge to stop anyone from blocking the Thursday vote. It's a leverage play far more than an expulsion plan.
What's new versus the Sept 3 complaint
-Names only individuals in official capacity (Rousse, Ausberry, Kiffin, all 18 Board members) plus AG Murrill — sidesteps LSU's sovereign immunity via Ex parte Young.
-Formally notices a Section 3.1.5 termination vote for Sept 10; two-thirds of 16 CEOs (11 votes) required.
-Seeks a TRO barring defendants "and persons in active concert" (explicitly the Pyburn plaintiffs) from suing to block or unwind that vote — essentially trying to pre-empt the 19th JDC.
Core theory: expulsion isn't rule enforcement (which the Louisiana court enjoined), it's a First Amendment right to disassociate under Roberts and Boy Scouts v. Dale.
The tell
¶94 says the meeting happens "whether LSU renounces its intention to roster... or not." That's a negotiating posture, not a settled intent to expel. Every outlet reporting on it — ESPN, for one — says the SEC is not expected to actually take such action.
¶87–88 confirms LSU held two roster spots open and can still add Harris and Wright post-deadline. The whole thing turns on whether Kiffin plays them Saturday.
Where the SEC's case is weak
It's asking a federal court in Alabama to restrain parties from litigating in a Louisiana state court that already has jurisdiction. That's an Anti-Injunction Act problem the complaint doesn't address, and federal judges dislike that request.
The Dale theory treats a 93-year business relationship among public universities as a Boy Scout troop. Novel, and a nine-figure media contract makes "expressive association" a harder sell.
Rousse voted for the policy statement on Aug 25. The SEC is using that against LSU (lack of institutional control), but it also undercuts the claim that LSU as an institution is forcing anything on the conference — it's Kiffin.
What to watch Thursday
Whether the 19th JDC enters the written PI order today and whether it expands scope to cover the vote itself.
Whether Judge Axon rules on the TRO before Thursday morning.
Whether the "vote" becomes a probation/conditions resolution instead — that's the most likely landing spot.
re: I imagine The GOAT will have a few words for the SEC office this week.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/8/26 at 12:05 pm to Lsuray70443
Fire Greg and put Saban in charge.
re: Lane calling Finebaum rat poison in his press conference
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 9/7/26 at 12:51 pm to Tigerbait1977
You gotta believe Saban is somewhat living vicariously through Kiffin… to a degree it’s his chance to be a part of LSU again, though behind the scenes.
re: Kentucky lawsuit now accusing NCAA of contempt of court
Posted by TigerDeBaiter on 8/27/26 at 3:28 pm to RB10
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They allow a one time waiver to the 5 for 5 rule to this one class since it was announced after they had to enter the draft
I don’t know why this so hard to understand as reasonable… of course the media has implied these kids have won a superbowl and want to go back to college. As usual, zero fricking nuance can be embraced.
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