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FYI, the LSU Track & Field record is 3.59m (11'9") set by six-time NCAA champion Walter Davis in 2001.
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He wants length and girth.

I'm 5'11" and at the time I was 270 and 50 years old. As I said earlier, I have no idea what my 40 and vertical leap are, but it's safe to say that my sub-5.00 days are many years and many pounds ago.
I don't know what my 40 time is these days since all my running is aerobic, but I did more bench press reps (touching my chest and locking my elbows) than half the offensive and defensive linemen at last years' combine, not to mention all the skill guys, and I'm too small to have ever played lineman in the NFL.
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Can someone explain to me what made Joe Namath a Hall of Famer?

New York City, the Broadway Joe personna and the legend of Super Bowl III
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To be fair Namath was a pretty good QB. The way his gameplan worked against the Colts in SB3 was a thing of beauty and he led the Jets to the most important win in NFL history. So yes if he says Brady is the best ever??? Well...........

I'm a big Broadway Joe fan, but a credible case can be made that he's the most overrated player in NFL history. He certainly has the most underwhelming resume of any quarterback in the Hall of Fame, but he benefitted from playing in New York and winning Super Bowl III. Also, many people feel that the 1958 NFL Championship Game was the mnost important game in league history, though a credible case can be made for Super Bowl III.
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Immediately after the game I thought it was a really really really horrible call but I'm now of the opinion that it wasn't that bad of a call to pass it. (The play call is another story).

It was also a great, great play by Butler and Browner. I heard a football analyst say that in all his years of following football, he's never seen an interception on a short slant route like that, only catches and incompletions.
That's because you attended the Les Miles school of clock management and don't understand that Seattle had to throw the ball at least once before fourth down.
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I've honestly never heard wilson being called black.

The Black quarterback is no longer a novelty, so why would you hear his race mentioned? I'm not sure what you're getting at. Jackie Robinson's race was mentioned but Larry Doby's wasn't. Sylvester Croom's race was mentioned but Kevin Sumlin's wasn't. And Doug Williams' race was mentioned but Steve McNair's wasn't.
I think every one here already knew that weight training wasn't always part of pro athletes training regimen, but do you have a point other than repeating this same banal statement?
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Bart Starr played in an era that predated weight training. He doesn't belong in the same conversation with Ryan Leaf, much less Tom Brady.

All athletes in all sports from Starr's era (eg. Hank Aaron, Wilt Chamberlain, Jim Brown, Mickey Mantle, Don Drysdale, Dick Butkus, Jack Nicklaus, Rod Laver, Bob Gibson, Muhammad Ali, Bob Hayes, etc.) lacked the benefit of weight training. What's your point?
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Brady pays the taxes buddy. Gift tax my man.

Are you sure? I thought the reciever pays the gift tax, not the giver.
IMO, the biggest improvement in track and field is the synthetic tracks.

In 1936, Jesse Owens set the world record in the long jump at the Big Ten Championships. His mark stood as the world record for 25 years, the Big Ten record until 2010, the school record until 2013 and would have won the 2014 NCAA Championships.

In 1934, LSU's Glen "Slats" Hardin set the world record in the 400-meter hurdles at a meet in Stockholm, Sweden. His mark stood for the record for 19 years and would have placed him 5th at the 2014 NCAA Championships.

Neither Owens nor Hardin ever competed on a synthetic track, nor did they benefit from legal PED's (eg. creatine), not to mention the illegal ones, and it goes without saying that their travel and training methods were very primitive by today's standards.

Allow these things to sink in for a second and think what they might have been capable of if they had been born 80 years later.
It's a nice gesture, but now Brady won't have to pay taxes on a truck that he would probably have never driven, and Butler will have to pay those taxes.
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Playing 154 v 10-14 games

The NFL played a 14-game schedule during all of the Packers' championship years.

EDIT: Babe Ruth never played against Black or Hispanic players but his accomplishments get compared to those of modern players, while Starr played in a fully integrated NFL and his accomplishments are pooh-poohed. I would compare Otto Graham to guys like Ruth and Ty Cobb, but I would compare Starr to athletes from his era, like Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Sandy Koufax, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain and Jerry West.
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Bart Starr didn't play against black people.

What the hell are you talking about. He played in the 1960's and the NFL was fully integrated by then, with Grambling sending more players to the NFL than LSU or Alabama.

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Seriously though, he had it easy. Have you ever watched an old football game. It's almost comical how slow the game was.

And those old players would have benefitted from modern medicine, nutrition, training and PED's just as much as today's players do.
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Pre baseball playoffs

Do not equal

Pre super bowl.

Why is that? These era are only two years apart - 1967 vs 1969.
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In any objectively measured event (track and field/swimming, etc.), the times of today absolutely dwarf those from 50 years ago. How people can still compare athletes from those eras today is nonsensical.

The best athletes of an era would have been among the best athletes of any era. The difference between athletes today and athletes 100 years ago is due to improved medicine, nutrition and training, not evolution. Therefore if Jesse Owens, Jim Thorpe, Mickey Mantle, Jim Brown or Roger Staubach were 25 years old today, they would all be bigger, stronger and faster versions of their original selves..
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No because he was the ultimate game manager, the original Russell Wilson. A lot of QBs would have looked good with Lombardi as their HC.

Can't you say the same thing about Brady. When Brady was hurt in 2008, Belicheck won 11 games with Brady's backup.