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re: Why do people use rankings at the time a game was played vs current/final season ranking?
Posted by inadaze on 10/23/26 at 12:20 pm to BuckeyeGoon
It's more than just that, though.
A lot of times guys are playing through stuff that affects performance. Sometimes people may not even know. So maybe week 2, X is phenomenal. Then week 6 the performance dips. It's not necessarily a matter of being wrong about X. It's that things are changing from one week to another, and you may not know why.
Yes, sometimes rankings are off based on preconceived ideas. But also, sometimes there is an overreaction by pollsters to a loss, whenever that may occur.
And there are other factors I was pointing at. Sometimes the morale of a team may go down toward the end of a season. That may have to do with an imminent coaching change, or a team not handling losses well. There are so many different factors that could affect a team. So it's not that a team is this fixed constant in the way that you're implying. That's what "process" is all about. It's in flux, and some teams change a lot during a season.
A lot of times guys are playing through stuff that affects performance. Sometimes people may not even know. So maybe week 2, X is phenomenal. Then week 6 the performance dips. It's not necessarily a matter of being wrong about X. It's that things are changing from one week to another, and you may not know why.
Yes, sometimes rankings are off based on preconceived ideas. But also, sometimes there is an overreaction by pollsters to a loss, whenever that may occur.
And there are other factors I was pointing at. Sometimes the morale of a team may go down toward the end of a season. That may have to do with an imminent coaching change, or a team not handling losses well. There are so many different factors that could affect a team. So it's not that a team is this fixed constant in the way that you're implying. That's what "process" is all about. It's in flux, and some teams change a lot during a season.
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re: Why do people use rankings at the time a game was played vs current/final season ranking?
Posted by inadaze on 10/23/26 at 10:22 am to BuckeyeGoon
There are a lot of reasons why your angle is not the complete logical absolute you're portraying it as.
Let's go back to 2023 for some examples. Florida State finished the season 13-0. But QB Jordan Travis got injured and they didn't make the playoffs. They had a bunch of optouts for the Orange Bowl vs. Georgia, lost 3-63, and ended up falling in the polls. Not by that much, but we really don't know what they would've done with a full team in the playoffs.
Now let's look at 2023 Ohio State. The Buckeyes lost one game to NC Michigan. Then they had optouts (QB Kyle McCord, Marvin Harrison Jr., and others) for the Cotton Bowl vs. Missouri, lost 3-14, and fell to 10 in the final polls.
Since optouts started becoming relatively common, that has affected a lot of teams in falling in the final polls.
Then there are other things that are less obvious than optouts and injuries. Let's say a key player is hurt late in the season, but still plays. Performance is not as good as it was earlier in the season, so if you're looking for the team's peak, it may be before player X got hurt.
Or, let's say a team just doesn't improve much over the course of a season for some reason(s), while other teams do improve during the season. In these circumstances, the earlier relative ranking may be more relevant for an earlier game. Something like that obviously involves a lot more uncertainty and opinion, though.
Let's go back to 2023 for some examples. Florida State finished the season 13-0. But QB Jordan Travis got injured and they didn't make the playoffs. They had a bunch of optouts for the Orange Bowl vs. Georgia, lost 3-63, and ended up falling in the polls. Not by that much, but we really don't know what they would've done with a full team in the playoffs.
Now let's look at 2023 Ohio State. The Buckeyes lost one game to NC Michigan. Then they had optouts (QB Kyle McCord, Marvin Harrison Jr., and others) for the Cotton Bowl vs. Missouri, lost 3-14, and fell to 10 in the final polls.
Since optouts started becoming relatively common, that has affected a lot of teams in falling in the final polls.
Then there are other things that are less obvious than optouts and injuries. Let's say a key player is hurt late in the season, but still plays. Performance is not as good as it was earlier in the season, so if you're looking for the team's peak, it may be before player X got hurt.
Or, let's say a team just doesn't improve much over the course of a season for some reason(s), while other teams do improve during the season. In these circumstances, the earlier relative ranking may be more relevant for an earlier game. Something like that obviously involves a lot more uncertainty and opinion, though.
I think the Spurs would benefit from a big 4-5 with a physical style to go with Wembanyama.
Tarris Reed Jr. may be able to do that at some point.
It may have benefitted the Spurs to trade one of those other guys, maybe Fox or Harper, for a physical big.
Tarris Reed Jr. may be able to do that at some point.
It may have benefitted the Spurs to trade one of those other guys, maybe Fox or Harper, for a physical big.
re: The speakers in the stadium are absurdly loud and need to be turned down
Posted by inadaze on 10/20/26 at 1:27 am to CBandits82
It's that way at some other stadiums too.
I watched some of the Skycast of the Alabama-Tennessee game in Neyland. PA announcer was so loud and irritating. It's an interesting view of the game, but I would have had to mute it to keep watching.
I think there have been so many outside influences from "business people" on college football in recent years that it has drastically changed the sport. So much money involved now. So many changes from people who have a "corporate mindset". Not enough people to say no to them.
I used to hate seeing that Coca-Cola bottle on the podium at Saban's press conferences. But not many people are going to turn down that money.
I watched some of the Skycast of the Alabama-Tennessee game in Neyland. PA announcer was so loud and irritating. It's an interesting view of the game, but I would have had to mute it to keep watching.
I think there have been so many outside influences from "business people" on college football in recent years that it has drastically changed the sport. So much money involved now. So many changes from people who have a "corporate mindset". Not enough people to say no to them.
I used to hate seeing that Coca-Cola bottle on the podium at Saban's press conferences. But not many people are going to turn down that money.
re: Big 12 statement: a second was left on clock in byu/nd game
Posted by inadaze on 10/19/26 at 6:27 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Also PI on that last play if you ask me. But at the same time, I don't think ND managed the last drive optimally. They could've used the last timeout earlier during a methodical drive so that they never had to use it when the chains were going to move on a first down.
Were the drive less methodical, it might not have mattered as much. But they needed to conserve as much time as possible for that type of drive.
Were the drive less methodical, it might not have mattered as much. But they needed to conserve as much time as possible for that type of drive.
re: CFB various games thread Friday 10/16/26
Posted by inadaze on 10/16/26 at 10:11 pm to G The Tiger Fan
Low-floor Memphis. Not even close to being a legitimate playoff team.
It's worth a unit to me.
Indiana had a lot of issues with Nebraska. And I think Ohio State is better than NU across the board. My questions about Ohio State are pass rush and offensive flow with the new coordinator. They really bogged down with a big lead against Texas. A lot of firepower, but they get out of a good rhythm for some reason(s).
Hoover is still questionable to me as a gamer. He has the ability to put up big numbers, but he had a tendency to turn the ball over against good teams with TCU. Sometimes guys improve that, but I'll have to see it first. It makes his role easier if OSU is unable to get pressure, as they were unable to do on Manning late in the game.
If OSU solves these issues, or even just one, I'd be inclined to put them in the top 4 with (not in order) Georgia, Miami, and Notre Dame ahead of them. I haven't seen enough for that yet, so I'd go with Alabama as the 4th team. But teams are not static nouns. They're more dynamic verbs, especially in the portal era.
Indiana had a lot of issues with Nebraska. And I think Ohio State is better than NU across the board. My questions about Ohio State are pass rush and offensive flow with the new coordinator. They really bogged down with a big lead against Texas. A lot of firepower, but they get out of a good rhythm for some reason(s).
Hoover is still questionable to me as a gamer. He has the ability to put up big numbers, but he had a tendency to turn the ball over against good teams with TCU. Sometimes guys improve that, but I'll have to see it first. It makes his role easier if OSU is unable to get pressure, as they were unable to do on Manning late in the game.
If OSU solves these issues, or even just one, I'd be inclined to put them in the top 4 with (not in order) Georgia, Miami, and Notre Dame ahead of them. I haven't seen enough for that yet, so I'd go with Alabama as the 4th team. But teams are not static nouns. They're more dynamic verbs, especially in the portal era.
Ghosting has been normalized in American culture for at least the last decade. A lot of females don't value honor, integrity, and other such traits as males do. Social media has amplified this in some ways, and a lot of female narcissism.
It's a low-character move to me, but a lot of them just don't care. And there are some that purposefully do this type of stuff. Getting a reaction feeds their ego. They're also fickle. She may be juggling multiple guys and felt like focusing on guy Z for the night, so she dropped X, Y, whoever else. It may be a different guy on a different day.
She may not have genuine interest, but doesn't want to explicitly say it. It's a dark and treacherous psychology to navigate for a lot of the YHs.
It's a low-character move to me, but a lot of them just don't care. And there are some that purposefully do this type of stuff. Getting a reaction feeds their ego. They're also fickle. She may be juggling multiple guys and felt like focusing on guy Z for the night, so she dropped X, Y, whoever else. It may be a different guy on a different day.
She may not have genuine interest, but doesn't want to explicitly say it. It's a dark and treacherous psychology to navigate for a lot of the YHs.
The forecast I'm looking at is showing a high probability for the first LSU win in Lexington since 2002.
To me, the more questionable thing is going super conservative on offense when you have the opportunity to end it. So many teams do it with a lead. Predictable run plays that the defense is playing overaggressively to stop. RRPP or even more conservatively RRRP. Just run your best stuff and exploit the defense if they're overplaying things.
If you have high trust in your defense, then playing it conservatively makes more sense. But Idaho had receivers wide open throughout the game.
If you have high trust in your defense, then playing it conservatively makes more sense. But Idaho had receivers wide open throughout the game.
Sackfest for NMSU.
SEC White Sox -- Hagen Smith started and Taylor finished it.
Strong finish by Trindon at the end of that run on the tackle by current South Carolina DL coach, Travian Robertson.
The TE reverse was my favorite play call.
More of those types of runs and more carries for Trindon would've would've been boons for the run game.
The TE reverse was my favorite play call.
More of those types of runs and more carries for Trindon would've would've been boons for the run game.
They have to start making penalties reviewable.
At that point, the whole game hinges on that call.
The Rams sealed the win. Then a defensive PI call that was really offensive PI undoes that and gives the Broncos a new set of downs to win it.
The broadcast even showed Nix laughing that essentially communicated, "We got away with that one."
At that point, the whole game hinges on that call.
The Rams sealed the win. Then a defensive PI call that was really offensive PI undoes that and gives the Broncos a new set of downs to win it.
The broadcast even showed Nix laughing that essentially communicated, "We got away with that one."
Creepy stuff.
Others you might enjoy for Sunday reading:
Leviticus 26
1 Samuel 15
Deuteronomy 32
Revelation 12
Others you might enjoy for Sunday reading:
Leviticus 26
quote:
You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters. 30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars and pile your dead bodies on the lifeless forms of your idols, and I will abhor you. 31 I will turn your cities into ruins and lay waste your sanctuaries, and I will take no delight in the pleasing aroma of your offerings. 32 I myself will lay waste the land, so that your enemies who live there will be appalled. 33 I will scatter you among the nations and will draw out my sword and pursue you. Your land will be laid waste, and your cities will lie in ruins.
1 Samuel 15
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3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
Deuteronomy 32
quote:
I will make my arrows drunk with blood,
while my sword devours flesh:
the blood of the slain and the captives,
the heads of the enemy leaders.”
Revelation 12
quote:
3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born.
The Rio Grande Rivalry might be one to look at for an under. (To anyone who reads this, research it yourself and come to your own conclusion. Don't bet it based on this post.)
It's a rivalry game, though. Sometimes weird stuff happens.
It's a rivalry game, though. Sometimes weird stuff happens.
re: T-Bob Hebert talks about his welcome to LSU moment was the showers lol
Posted by inadaze on 9/26/26 at 6:23 am to TheFlyingTiger
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The rest of that show was fun tho.
Yeah, but some of that stuff going back to the Miles era is illustrative of untapped potential and why Alabama was able to pull away as a program. Specifically the glorification of cheap shots and preparation for the 2012 BCSCG. Retrorant incoming...
The emphasis should've been on dominant blocking. That looks a lot better on a replay than cheap shots. The way offensive linemen were (not) developed during that era, it's really not surprising, though. For T specifically, I think he would've had to play at a different weight to be dominant. Either something like a 270-280 jumbo TE, which would've fit how Miles liked to use TEs. Or a heavier Aaron Taylor-type player. (Not to be confused with the other 90s All-American OL Aaron Taylor who now does analysis with CBS.)
Then the part about preparing for Alabama with the option. That was something that probably came about from seeing Georgia Southern rush for over 300 yards vs. Alabama in 2011. But that was their thing. Jefferson never ran the option instinctively. Really, it would've been better to have Russell Shepard running that as an option QB. But then there would've still been issues with predictability for that, so a somewhat diverse package would need to be installed for it.
Then the other issue is at RB. That roster was mostly big backs at RB. Not a good matchup for a Saban defense, and Miles never seemed to understand that. With Alabama on the schedule every year, the roster should've always had a few scatback types who could exploit Alabama's big LBs. Instead, Miles would just run big RBs right into those defenses, playing right into Alabama's hands. They were built for just that thing.
A diverse package with a quick QB and a quick scatback for the pitch, and some built-in threats for passes, that could've worked.
Or having Jefferson start the game with a few deep shots to set up QB run on pass plays in man coverage. Maybe, but there was always that issue of Jefferson not being very instinctive on runs. Those rosters really needed specific personnel for Alabama. Miles seemed to be oblivious to mismatch opportunities in personnel. I mean, hardly anyone ever talked about it, but Saban intentionally built defenses with jumbo LBs. Good players, yes, some exceptionally good. But there are vulnerabilities to playing with that much size. And Louisiana is an ideal area to find those types of players who create mismatch opportunities.
Offensive players (football and basketball) with high-level quickness and change of direction are mismatches for defensive length and overall size.
Home runs are up, though. More total home runs over the last decade than in the steroid era.
Up from the ashes, ready to take flight.
Atlanta needs some air support. They're currently last in the NFL in PYG at 123.5.
Atlanta needs some air support. They're currently last in the NFL in PYG at 123.5.
It'll give them time to reminisce on the series history, specifically JaMarcus Russell's passing statline from 2004-06: 48-56 (86%), 672, 6 TD, 0 INT, 1 Rush TD.
Two things: the Ole Miss rebuild, and finding Chambliss -- two of the most impressive things to me in college coaching in recent years.
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