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I admit it would be harder to pinpoint Rhaeger and Lyanna, but still possible. The first episode of GOT discusses Rhaegar and Lyanna while Ned and Robert are down in the crypts. So it's some of the first information a show-watcher gets; it frames the entire series.

Beyond that, I would just say that once you start wondering about Jon's lineage and interest is peaked - it's easier to get on the trail. And R + L is one of the only options. There's no discussion of Ashara Dayne, for example, to lead you off course. The show is emphasizing only a few players in Robert's rebellion.
I read the books after watching the first few seasons and I didn't find it hard to speculate about Jon's true parents well before I read the books.

For starters, there's this huge focus from day one on Jon Snow. The question of who is his mother is discussed between Jon and Ned & Ned and Robert. Both conversations have Ned refusing to speak on it. These are conversations designed to create questions.

The show has a huge focus on Jon. And Jon being a bastard is discussed constantly. And Jon wonders who his mom is aloud. Hell, Jon at this point looks like the show's penultimate hero. Not hard to wonder where this is going.

There's a difference in Carol's actions and the others mentioned in the thread - she had every opportunity to bring this decision to the group and discuss this action.

The other questionable actions have mostly had a moment-of-truth which meant that not acting would have permanent consequence. Carol didn't even attempt to bring this to the council when she had ample opportunity.

re: Top 5 Bust/Steals so far

Posted by Circle the Wagons on 10/17/12 at 1:15 pm to
Mathews got hurt before most drafts and dropped out of the first round by a good bit. He was expected to miss 2-3 weeks, he came back in Week 3. He had a couple rough weeks but can you really complain about 8-19-8 the last 3? And it looks like he's going to have a good year. He's already ranked 27th about RBs in standard scoring, having missed two weeks. Which, again, people drafting him knew going in.

I don't think he's a bust at all.
The history of sports commissioners in the U.S., starting with Landis, has not been that they are simply "Yes men" for the owners. This is reflected by the usual long length of service and long contracts.

Every owner can't be involved in negotiations with the refs. Goodell has to spearhead that effort. It hasn't worked out well. Who knows what is happening behind the scenes? Goodell could be advising the owners well and meeting resistance or he could be providing them with bad information/assessments. That being said, he can't be absolved of all blame by looking at this situation on its face. He is a huge part of the dynamics.
Depends. The pre-fight, center of the ring, stare-down is not stupid. Though, many fighters look away, or down, now.

A good stare down is part of the sport. The forced, contrived stare downs can't take that away. Was Thomas Hearns' stare-downs stupid? No.
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I guess someone can be a Hero and criminal at the same time



A flawed hero? Yes, happens all the time. Hell, that might be the most realistic thing about the movie, but you're also complaining about how it was unrealistic.

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damn you Uptown


Frankie & Johnny's
I would if I was a Tenn. fan, there is really nothing in Dooley's resume/experience that makes me think he is in an upgrade. Add to that, the instability caused my the carousel tenure of Kiffin.

There are a lot of factors, outside of coaching, that have put Tenn. at a disadvantage in maintaining national power status. Of course, Fulmer has to bear some responsibility for the decline, too. That said, Phil was an SEC coaching stalwart who had a national title under his belt. Dooley is a coaching legacy who has had moderate head coaching success. I bet Fulmer looks at Dooley and wonders why someone who he should be considering for his staff - is holding the position he was fired from. Everybody seems to like Dooley, personally, but those are the hard facts.

re: Sandlot over kill.

Posted by Circle the Wagons on 5/26/11 at 4:49 pm to
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Why in the world didnt any of these kids play Little League baseball? Say the movie takes place in 1962, I started Little League in 1966. EVERY kid especially in that type of suburb type neiborhood played little league. No way solid ball players like them wouldnt have been part of a team.


Wasn't this part of the point of the movie? They were all great friends and they played for the love of the game?
Wilder came late to the sport. I think people are going to give him a bit more lee-way in regards to when he steps up the competition.

IMO, his management is being very smart about it. He has a lot of potential but needs to be brought along slowly.

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If George fails to floor him in the first flurry. . .Tyson is inside.


You say this as if he remains inside the whole fight.

There is this thing called a clinch. Jab, jab, inside fighting, clinch, break.

It's not as if Foreman is going to have one chance at this or even Tyson in return.
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People saying Spinks was not legit are fricking retarded


Well, maybe so. But, what he definitely was...a 31 year old who started at light heavyweight.

He had a very good career, but beating him isn't evidence that Tyson would beat a great heavyweight.

He just doesn't factor into the discussion.
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He was beating the hell out of Lewis before that fight was stopped



Yeah, tough ending to that one. But you could drive a truck through that cut. Lennox was faded at that point in his career, but it would have been nice to see a rematch.
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Was the type of boxer that Tyson made his money against.


Ali? Who did Tyson fight that was of Ali's type?

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In his Prime, Tyson ends Lewis' career.


I'm sure you don't mean literally? You don't think that Mike would have had problems being on the end of Lewis' jab? Prime Lewis was better than any version of fighter Tyson ever beat. Lewis presents virtually all the match-up problems that Tyson would have to worry about. The only problem is Lewis' chin.

Vitali Klitschko would present all the problems of Lewis but with a chin to go with it.
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In his Prime, nobody beats Tyson.


It's exaggerations like these that have caused the backlash against Tyson in regards to his place in boxing history.

I would actually slightly favor Tyson against Frazier. But nobody?

There are lots of bigger heavyweights out there would have given Mike fits:

Foreman
Ali
Vitali
Lennox Lewis (even in Mike's prime)
Holmes (in his prime, not the version Mike fought)

You could make a case for someone like Bowe. Holyfield maybe.

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I just don't know why you're surprised that either of them would have small bench maxes. I'd be surprised if either of them benched more than once a weak;


Yeah, but considering that many average people could walk in the gym for the first time and 165, it's still pretty low.

Great test of strength or not.
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After nothing came from the Cam Newton mess, is it really so hard to believe that AU boosters feel untouchable?


The "Cam Newton mess" isn't over, they just got a ruling on what was known at the time. The NCAA hasn't dropped anything concerning Auburn. The NCAA takes forever to uncover scandal because they have no real subpoena power, no real power outside the CFB world. They can't compel the boosters to do much of anything.

They'll just investigate until someone squeals, if someone squeals.

If the boosters feel bulletproof, it isn't because of the Newton ruling. It's because there billionaires and the NCAA is going to need a lot of help, or luck, to get the truth.

re: The NBA: Is it Dying?

Posted by Circle the Wagons on 1/17/11 at 7:08 pm to
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I posted my link of NFL arrests since 2000.


The NFL made the decision decades ago to market the sport and its teams over the players. The NBA did the inverse and embraced the premier players as the major selling point. It's makes sense what the NFL did so because the of the nature of the sport (injuries) and even the fact that you can't see the players' faces when playing.

So, the NBA's popularity rises and falls with the images of its star players to a greater degree than the NFL does. So this comparison to the NFL, is really irrelevant. It may prove some type of moral point, but it doesn't disprove the notion that the image of the players is one of the NBA's problem.

The players in the NFL are more expendable (in the business sense and honestly it's unfortunate), whereas the NBA thrives off its stars.

re: Mike Todd out at Walker

Posted by Circle the Wagons on 12/16/10 at 1:27 pm to
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After my sophmore year they fired John Guerin. Our principle at the time hired a long time friend of his over our Defensive Coordinator of 12 years who was 10x the "Head Coach" material than the guy who was hired.


Yep, this is where the mistake was made.