BellottiBold

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God you are a fricking moron.


Like if something isn't spelled out for in the most obvious way possible, you never get the point of what anyone is saying.

Good God I can't imagine dealing with someone like you in real life.

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The irony in what you just posted is clearly lost on you. Someone else asked "how did that work out for TN" clearly suggesting that Oregon had no trouble dealing with that particular brand of SEC "size" that you kept suggesting was a uniform advantage across your conference (in comparison to Oregon, that is) and instead of acknowledging this you instead pointed out that Alabama soundly beat the Vols - which for the sake of the discussion is actually totally irrelevant. Awesome rhetorical work bro.

Also really enjoyed that "Oregon wouldn't stop Alabama once" line. Solid.

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You had Jerrard Randall in the same class and he (at the time) was the better prospect.

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I take issue with the idea that Randall was the better prospect (than either Manziel or Mariota) but with that said I don't really see what that has to do with anything.

And this talk of the "system" Mariota operates is absurd. If you go back and watch his play since he became Oregon's starter, you'll see plenty of NFL throws, and throws to receivers who are sandwiched by DBs. The guy is a great quarterback, period.

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lol

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It's true, and actually I should have said "without the wild improvisational runs *AND* heaving up jump-balls."

Mariota is absolutely a better *quarterback* than Manziel. They're both great players, but standing in the pocket and throwing, Mariota is better, early season rustiness (the accuracy dip) aside.

He's also lightning quick. I mean some of you have just heard that he's "fast" - in fact he has elite speed that is unmatched at the position in college football.

Marcus wouldn't be playing in close games with A&M because he'd put the games out of reach quicker than Manziel, without the wild improvisational runs.

This is Oregon *without* De'Anthony Thomas btw. And starting WR (SR) Josh Huff is out after taking a rough hit earlier.

There's some funny stuff in this thread.

I'm just going to get to the heart of the initial question, which I think is really about continuity and consistency. Oregon's had coaching continuity that is basically unrivaled in all of college football, and that combined with discovering (and committing completely) to a system that gives kids more reps in both practice as well as games, has resulted in the Ducks being able to field young *and* successful teams every single season in recent memory. Seriously, people spend way too much time talking about the x's and o's on gameday, and "speed" while completely missing the fact that Oregon is giving more reps to young inexperienced players quicker than probably any other program in the nation. Even this team, probably Oregon's most talented *ever* is littered with underclassmen in key roles. By the way, this also means that when Oregon goes out on the recruiting trail, they have more playing time to offer kids. (When you begin to break Oregon's program into its different components, you see how they all fit together in a comprehensive way.) And speaking of the recruiting - every year Oregon winds up in the BCS picture, the coaches have been able to get more and more selective. There's a culture in Eugene now (insert weed/macstoli jokes here) and Oregon has adopted a notoriously restrictive - some might say stubborn - approach for weeding through the would-be Ducks and making sure that in addition to being capable of playing at a high level, the players that are offered are all capable of qualifying (Oregon hasn't had any non-qualifiers in about 5 years - unprecedented) highly committed to the sport, and not players who crave the spotlight or interested primarily in individual accolades. Oregon recruits low key, doesn't gas kids up, and expects kids to reciprocate interest in a significant way.

Fun thread... can't believe this didn't get more attention:

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Thomas was just as good a passer IMO but Mariota is a MUCH better ballhandler, runner and has better pocket presence.

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Not the case at all. Mariota is markedly superior in every category to Thomas. Mariota is more athletic, has a bigger arm, terrific mechanics (with a lightning quick release), makes better throws on the run, and is simply more accurate than Thomas ever was. Mariota had a long pass to Josh Huff in the second half on Saturday night that we've been waiting 5 years to see. Dennis Dixon was the last guy we had who could make that throw.

The article Dixon is referencing has Vanderdoes saying positive stuff about USC, Oregon, LSU, and Nebraska, for what it's worth. Those are described as a "few" of his finalists.

One of our commits in Beaverton has been in his ear about Oregon and he along with some of the analysts believe RSJ has been receptive, but doesn't know where he stands with the coaching staff. (We are very slow to offer even the elite kids at this point.)

And there's been a lot of discussion about the legality of post-opening visits, but there are at least two kids expected to be in Eugene before they leave the state. A few others are taking west coast swings through schools like USC, Washington, and Cal additionally.

Besides visiting us a couple of times already, we've heard he's taken a serious liking to our staff. Also he's not only very close to Arik Armstead, but to the Armstead family - he was in attendance when Armstead announced.

We like our chances but he's big-time and everybody is going to beg him to come until he signs. Also Oregon is known for being relatively hands off and waiting for kids to decide they *want* to be in Eugene. That makes recruiting blue chip studs a precarious business for sure.

Also the comment about our DL pedigree is valid, but know that we like to think we're getting much better in that department. Chip Kelly brought with him a new DL coach in Jerry Azzinaro - whose main claim to fame in coaching circles is that he was Dwight Freeny's coach at Syracuse. He's had our DL performing better each year, and each year he's had a chance to coach better athletes than the year previous. I think you'll see Oregon's DL make a name for itself this year, both in conference, and should we reach a BCS game, against somebody elite. (Our non-conf schedule is admittedly baby soft this year.)