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This show I know you have never taken economics. The uneducated will destroy this country through ignorance. fricking commies

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You’ve really gone off the deep end, man. You’ve devolved from the quirky, slightly-out there guy who lives in the wilderness to full-blown loon with rage issues. You don’t know anything about my education level, and you certainly wouldn’t be able to glean it from a post about me laughing at the use of “crony capitalism.” I can tell you my profs certainly didn’t teach us that in business school, and they all had a hard-on for Friedman, and half of them were only moonlighting as teachers (their day jobs were a couple miles south, on Wall St), so it wasn’t because the b-school was some bastion of liberalism. These guys fricking loved capitalism, but they weren’t fricking stupid enough to believe it was fair. In fact, they loved it specifically because it wasn’t fair—it favored them.

They LOVE that idiots like you think free-market isn’t a joke, just like Google, FB, et al love it. They all keep profiting off your ignorance and your willingness to let them do their thing, and they’ve even gotten you to help them keep doing it! “No intervention because that’s bad.” They can’t believe their luck :lol:

I laid it out pretty simplistically in my last post. If you can’t follow that, then it’s probably not worth continuing. The takeaway, though, is that true free-market capitalism is a myth over time because it leads to consolidation of power and that leads to pay-for-play. We’re living in it now. You think politicians have the power to stop Google? :lol: you think people with the power of Google aren’t going to use that power to stay in power? :lol:

It’s over.

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But those who support this love power. We are headed toward a technocracy.

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A technocracy is almost inevitable (I’d argue it’s already here). The irony is that a technocracy is the direct result of unchecked free-market capitalism. Capitalism inevitably leads to absolute power consolidation, and when that happens on a global scale, as it has over the past 20 years, it’s game over. The invisible hand isn’t going to save us—it led us right here :lol:

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This is absurd. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

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Maybe. I don’t claim to be an expert on everything, and I’m not a scientist/epidemiologist/virologist. Therefore, I should be nowhere near the table when policy decisions are being made around a pandemic.

But that kind of bolsters my argument. A lot of people in this thread are not experts and they’re shitting on the people who are. I actually don’t know the answer here, and I’m not here to shove my uninformed opinion on this down everyone’s throat. I’m here for discussion. Some people have tossed out some interesting thoughts, but none of them have really countered why the narrative here is that the scientists all screwed the pooch or that we’re in the midst of an NWO cabal-style takeover.

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It conditions people to do what the government tells them to do in the name of safety, and also doubles as a way to shame people who don't comply.

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I actually think there’s something to this line of thinking (I think people in power probe the boundaries of what they can get away with), but I don’t think it’s binary (government mandate=secret nefarious scheme).

The scientists today are in such a shitty position, but they chose correctly. If they took the stance that we should let it ride, and COVID turned out to be Spanish Flu Part 2, we wipe out the whole fricking planet. And they would have been eaten alive. Instead, they erred (and continue to err) on the side of caution, and they’re pummeled in public by a bunch of amateur conspiracy theorists, claiming based on zero evidence that this is really just a global conspiracy to turn us all into slaves. The answer is probably in the middle (scientists want us to be safe, and some sinister politicians want to leverage that).

What do you think we should do? Nothing?

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We've been trending towards Idiocracy for 15 years now.

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We’re already past it. We elected Comacho four years ago :lol:

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to make you put absolute faith in a central government?

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I don’t have absolute faith in the central government just like many right-wingers don’t have absolute faith in unchecked capitalism. This isn’t a binary; rather it’s a continuum.

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RRRrrrrrriiiiiigggggghhhhhttttt.........Trump on his worst day with half his brain tied behind his back could defeat Biden. What kind of man doesn't like a strong dominant male leader....a wimp, perhaps??

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The debate stage favors Biden. Both suck by themselves:

Trump’s coked-out stream-of-consciousness word salad plays well with his frothing base—who only hear the buzzwords—but does nothing for him (positively) for anyone else.

Biden’s relaxed and overly-rehearsed exhaustingly repetitive “classic” political soundbites don’t do much for him either.

But in a debate setting all Biden has to do is sit and wait for Trump to gleefully jump into the noose and hang himself. Over. And over. And over.

So if you’re being honest with yourself you all know this is Trump. He’s found himself in a position where he can’t bully or intimidate his opponent and he doesn’t know what to do.

ETA: the schadenfreude here is just delicious, btw. For months the loons have been swearing up and down that Biden and his camp were too pussy to debate and fricking trump cancels it. Just magic. :lol:

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It wouldn't matter which Republican was in office, the Dems would be forcing the same shite sandwich on the American people.

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This is such a terrible take.

When was the last time there was this much unrest against a Republican president? This isn't a fight against conservatives--Trump isn't a real conservative anyway; he's an opportunist that goes with whatever he thinks benefits him that second--this is a fight against Trump, pure and simple.

Keep slinging insults my way, though. I'm sure it's cathartic for you, especially in the absence of anything substantive. But understand this: I know I'm in enemy territory. I expect insults.

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The ruling class is purposefully doing this to rub it in our faces; will will try & steal the election.

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People aren't voting for Biden because they're excited about him. They're voting for Biden to get Trump out of office. There is no excitement for Biden, but there is excitement about not Trump. That's a very real thing, and you all know it with your TDS and OMB comments you mock us for.

Hate is also a motivator to vote, and people fricking despise trump. Loads of them.

So you can post pics like this all you want to make you feel better, but you're missing the point. Biden doesn't need excitement to win.

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and remain respectful toward Biden. He usually comes out and does the opposite of what everyone expects.

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:Lol:

This is an unmitigated disaster.