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Back when the stadium held 67,000 all of the areas north, west and south of the stadium were open fields with the exception of the ROTC building and Alex Box. The parking was free and very close to the stadium. You could get out in a reasonable time even if staying for the end of the game. Now there are new classroom buildings and athletic facilities covering what used to be free parking. The stadium is now 50% larger and the parking is about 75% reduced in areas around the stadium. The road access into LSU campus is unchanged. On top of it all, large high definition TVs have become inexpensive. LSU used to appear about once a season on black and white and then color TV. Now it's high def every game. It has all outgrown the infrastructure and it is harder to have a good time and to get in and out in order for it to be an evening out instead of a day long project.
There must be 1,000 decisions Coach has to make before and during a game. This decision about the field goal is just one of them. Of course some of these decisions will be wrong in retrospect. It's too complicated to be otherwise.
Same point spread as against Alabama. We’ve become a very good defensive team and getting better. The fact that improvement is occurring makes it hard for odds makers.

re: The Loudest Ever?

Posted by engl6914 on 11/8/22 at 7:43 am to
I went to my first game in 1960 as a 11 year old, a 7-6 win over Miss St, and was awestruck. I wondered if the crowd was as loud a year earlier when Billy Cannon made his punt return. I have been since to virtually every game cited on this thread. What I can tell you is that they are a series of very intense experiences that are unforgettable, each different in a certain way. I was in the room when my son and later my daughter were born. These are all as riveting as it gets. I got once to be on the LSU sidelines to photograph a game against Auburn. It's worth saying that however loud you think it is in the seats it is much louder on the field where every voice in the stadium is projecting toward you.
After living through the fumble recovery give-back and the "pass interference"/tipped ball referee decisions, going for two looks safer than going for one
110 db is like being just off the runway with a large passenger jet on its take off roll.

re: Loudest game ever?

Posted by engl6914 on 11/6/22 at 8:28 am to
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ESPN showed a sound meter that registered at 110db in the NEZ last night.



You can look it up, but 110 db is like a jackhammer, or standing near the runway with a 747 on its take off roll.
This play and the "pass interference" /tipped ball play in Alabama's overtime possession may have had something to do with Kelly's decision to go for two following our overtime TD. The longer overtime goes the more likely some referee call decides the game.
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The logical conclusion is that you wind up installing a lot of quieter speakers that are closer to the listeners. But there are trade-offs and it’s extremely complicated as I mentioned in my previous post.



I think this must have been done in Bryant-Denny at Tuscaloosa. When I go I sit in the lower bowl. The speakers are hung beneath the upper deck and aimed toward the field. The sound there is superb--I can clearly hear everything the stadium announcer says and even what the referee is saying. At LSU I sit in the west side stadium club and can hearing next to nothing.
I don't have the bill in front of me but recollection says two seats in 309 is about $7,000 donation to Stadium Club (maybe TAF). Then buy two sets of season tickets ($300 for two to Alabama and $200 for two to Ole Miss). Then make a contribution of, say, $500 for the right to buy a parking spot in lot 401 by the stadium and then, say $600 for a season parking spot. Foolish to buy the tickets without the parking pass. So, what's that? $7,000 + $2200 or so for tickets, then plus $1100 parking. Means about $10,000 plus for two. That's 3rd level stadium club about 10 yard line--it's a little lower in the first two levels. Then you have to buy the whiskey.
[quote]Dietzel was AD in 1992?[/

A fault of memory. He was AD here from 1978-1982. I should've looked it up, though it's close enough.
Just reading the thread regarding crowd noise high marks at TS. We have at TS what amounts to a legend in its own time. Other SEC fans have heard and wonder about the place. I remember Ath Director Dietzel 30 years ago proposing a new stadium down Nicholson because TS was so maintenance heavy. That proposal was met with an embarrassing silence and later Dietzel was shown the door.
So what will it look like there in 500 years? Like the downtown Rome coliseum ruins with signs indicating the remains of showers (yes, that's what they used back then) and with a new stadium by the river or on central campus, or the same stadium with a dome and AC added and a Mitsubishi hi-def TV hanging down?
I ask this because TS is central to the lore of LSU. It's like a temple. Maybe Mitchie Stadium at West Point, The Big House, or Notre Dame Stadium could be talked about the same way. Maybe. Griffin Stadium in Gainesville? I dunno. I do know part of what I pay to TAF goes to stadium maintenance, but I pay it cheerfully. No dog in this fight. Just wondering what some feel about it.
My moment would be four plays before the pass to Eddie Fuller to win the Earthquake Game. On the final drive, when LSU had to have it, Hodson hit Willie Williams with a pass on fourth down to set up the final four downs of the game. I've been going to many, many games at Tiger Stadium for 62 years but have never seen or heard the crowd as at that moment. Williams had to run some to get the 4th down yardage so the noise swelled and wasn't as abrupt as 4 plays later--thus, no earthquake. But, my Lord, how that stadium came down. Those of us there will never forget the intensity of that whole game, not just the last drive. When the 4th ranked team comes to LSU to play on Saturday night it is something very special.

re: LSU Fans reputation

Posted by engl6914 on 10/4/22 at 1:43 pm to
Those of us who have lived in other areas of the SEC are aware of the reason--south Louisiana is culturally distinct from the rest of the SEC. They are not sure what to think or do about us. I lived three years in Birmingham and remember the quietness and uncertainty when the issue of going to Baton Rouge to a game came up.
And it has always been so; there was an infantry brigade in General Lee's army in Virginia called the Louisiana Tigers. Always thought of as peculiar, they were from around Bayous Teche, Lafourche, and Sara and from the Irish Channel and the docks of New Orleans. A lot of both English and French was spoken. Same attitude as now by the rest of the Army. But when General Lee had to have it the Tigers were brought up. They ruptured the Yankee line themselves on the 2nd day at Gettysburg. In 1895 when football teams were being started this unit was remembered better than now and is the reason for our team name.

re: Need to play Nuss

Posted by engl6914 on 10/2/22 at 2:02 pm to
I'm not complaining--about any QB. Wasn't it only 9-10 months ago that we didn't have a QB? A wide receiver suited up as QB because he had played QB in high school. He and 35 others suited up. For a bowl game.

That we can put a competitive team out there at all, let alone see the great plays I'm seeing from teenagers, is a great accomplishment. In 12-30 months we're going to once again see the football world get quiet when LSU and Bama take the field against each other.
The ghost of Chuck Mullins hangs over the SEC. Decades from now we will remember his name.
I don’t want to get into numbers of wins but will say this coach is blessed with the gift of insight. We already have a team to be proud of, and I sense coming, though perhaps not this year, some monumental games against Alabama—the kind where the football world just stops and watches.
We only had 30 players to suit out late last year. There's a large infusion of transfers. We have a new coaching staff and players working with each other in a game for the first time. I thought it was a great achievement to come back the way we did. Standing back to look at it, the QB and the team as a whole were playing considerably better at the end than at the beginning. The team didn't quit and came back strong at the end. I'm anticipating better as the season goes on and a competitive game against Alabama. Remember that a lot of these players are teenagers.
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If he was a good coach during that time and brought them a lot of success, how could they complain?

The ND fan reaction reminds me of us when Saban left. In fact, there are some of us still calling him Satan.
I think hiring Kelly will mark a turning point for the better for LSU football, just as did Saban's hiring 21 years ago.