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Everyone told me the Florida is way better than the Ole Miss and Missouri jobs because of Steve Spurrier and decades-old Heismans.
Legends in their own minds.
Legends in their own minds.
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re: Why are there not more posts about the biggest SEC game this weekend?
Posted by Craw_Dad on 10/23/25 at 5:40 pm to Gator Fever
Hoping for a game outcome that means your team is less likely to hire a coach to replace your recently fired coach.
Whew. That is a tough spot to be in.
Whew. That is a tough spot to be in.
Florida isn't a better job than Ole Miss or Missouri
Posted by Craw_Dad on 10/21/25 at 8:20 am
Kiffin and Drink are both paid $9mil. Napier was at $7.3. Some of that is timing of the contract, but the money won't be better at Florida.
MU and Ole Miss have demonstrated they have the booster support to pay for top tier rosters and assistants.
Kiffin and Drinkwitz are the singular voice of their programs. No meddling boosters who think they should be the decision makers.
The NIL era has ushered in a new paradigm. We saw it with Cignetti and we will continue to see it. "Blue Blood" programs with sky high and immediate expectations aren't as desirable as they once were.
Convince me. Why is Florida the better job? Your answer shouldn't include anything about the accomplishments of Steve Spurrier. Today's recruits weren't alive for that.
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You all are wildly unconvincing. Most of the contrary arguments fell into one of 2 buckets:
1. Florida is better because it's the University of Florida!!! Thanks for that analysis.
2. Florida is better because it won national championships in '96, '06 and '08. Sorry to p!ss in your cheerios, but a program's success 20 and 30 years ago is way down on the list of basic coach priorities. How much are you paying me and my staff? What are your facilities like? Does your program give my players a platform to develop and advance to pro football? Like it or not, Florida isn't ahead of OM or MU on any of those priorities.
MU and Ole Miss have demonstrated they have the booster support to pay for top tier rosters and assistants.
Kiffin and Drinkwitz are the singular voice of their programs. No meddling boosters who think they should be the decision makers.
The NIL era has ushered in a new paradigm. We saw it with Cignetti and we will continue to see it. "Blue Blood" programs with sky high and immediate expectations aren't as desirable as they once were.
Convince me. Why is Florida the better job? Your answer shouldn't include anything about the accomplishments of Steve Spurrier. Today's recruits weren't alive for that.
**Update**
You all are wildly unconvincing. Most of the contrary arguments fell into one of 2 buckets:
1. Florida is better because it's the University of Florida!!! Thanks for that analysis.
2. Florida is better because it won national championships in '96, '06 and '08. Sorry to p!ss in your cheerios, but a program's success 20 and 30 years ago is way down on the list of basic coach priorities. How much are you paying me and my staff? What are your facilities like? Does your program give my players a platform to develop and advance to pro football? Like it or not, Florida isn't ahead of OM or MU on any of those priorities.
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Oklahoma is a small state however four of our Heisman winners are Oklahoma kids.
Ah, yes the Billy Vessels season from 73 years ago was truly magical. And if that doesn't convince you of OU's 2025 superiority, this surely will: Billy went on to play for the Edmonton Eskimos the following year. People are saying that the Oklahoma to Edmonton pipeline has coaches and recruits salivating.
I stand corrected. Thanks. I thought that reno was a 2 year project. I went to the 2nd home game after that was completed in 2015. vs Nevada. Sat in that new West side.
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Serious question why was Missouri not able to get construction completed on their stadium in the offseason.
Serious question: Do you actually think an 8 month timeline is reasonable for a $250 million major stadium addition? A lot of single family homes aren't built in 8 months.
Just think critically a tiny little bit.
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Lol, that you think playing texass in dallas is a neutral site.
Don't they literally split the stands 50/50? Seems about as neutral as it gets inside a stadium.
MU, OU, and Road Games
Posted by Craw_Dad on 10/6/25 at 4:53 pm
Mizzou's schedule has been getting attention here- first road game is Oct 18 vs Auburn.
OU haven't been road warriors either. They play the Gamecocks in Columbia Oct 18. Their only road game has been vs American Athletic Conference Temple Owls in the Philadelphia Eagles' stadium. They'll have a neutral site game vs Texas. They have no true road test until mid-Oct, similar to Missouri.
Should be interesting to see how Mateer and Pribula, two SEC-newcomer QBs, respond when they finally get into a real road environment.
OU haven't been road warriors either. They play the Gamecocks in Columbia Oct 18. Their only road game has been vs American Athletic Conference Temple Owls in the Philadelphia Eagles' stadium. They'll have a neutral site game vs Texas. They have no true road test until mid-Oct, similar to Missouri.
Should be interesting to see how Mateer and Pribula, two SEC-newcomer QBs, respond when they finally get into a real road environment.
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Not sure how being proud of a team's history and tradition is a bad look.
It isn't. You've turned my argument into a strawman. I never said celebrating your team's history is a bad look. I said using that history as an excuse to take an unearned air of superiority toward a 2025 football team is a bad look.
I think it's great for Alabama to celebrate their 1925 team at halftime. I'm guessing the PA announcer won't follow up the celebration with "Vanderbilt is terrible and this 1925 Alabama team is proof!"
re: The Great SEC Paradox: Why Do Yesterday's Wins Matter More Than Today's
Posted by Craw_Dad on 10/3/25 at 1:01 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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I assume from your username that you're an LSU fan.
I can see how you'd make that assumption, but I'm not an LSU fan. My team has taken a few licks from LSU and given a few too.
I try to be as even handed as I can be in my assessment of teams and fanbases. This is just an observation I've made and I think it's a bad look.
Lots of examples with Florida. Take a look at the Drinkwitz isn't going to Florida thread.
I see it from fans of many schools talking about Vandy vs Alabama this week. Vanderbilt is damn good and can absolutely beat the Tide. The bloom has come off Alabama's rose a bit during the transition to DeBoer, and instead of acknowledging it, Bama fans act as if Vandy doesn't belong on the same field. A few years ago, yes. You're a fool if you think that today.
I see it in discussions about Ole Miss. They're a top 5 ranked team, and Kiffin has brought sustained excellence. Why do Vol/UGADawg/LSUTiger/Sooner fans feel the need to act superior based on a history of success? Y'all aren't superior right now. Maybe citing nattys from decades ago or listing off your Heismans who are now dead or have joined AARP makes you feel superior, but its a transparent cope.
I see it from fans of many schools talking about Vandy vs Alabama this week. Vanderbilt is damn good and can absolutely beat the Tide. The bloom has come off Alabama's rose a bit during the transition to DeBoer, and instead of acknowledging it, Bama fans act as if Vandy doesn't belong on the same field. A few years ago, yes. You're a fool if you think that today.
I see it in discussions about Ole Miss. They're a top 5 ranked team, and Kiffin has brought sustained excellence. Why do Vol/UGADawg/LSUTiger/Sooner fans feel the need to act superior based on a history of success? Y'all aren't superior right now. Maybe citing nattys from decades ago or listing off your Heismans who are now dead or have joined AARP makes you feel superior, but its a transparent cope.
The Great SEC Paradox: Why Do Yesterday's Wins Matter More Than Today's
Posted by Craw_Dad on 10/2/25 at 5:57 pm
I've noticed something interesting in conversations with some SEC fans and it's been reinforced on this forum. I'm genuinely curious about the perspective here.
Why do so many fans put such heavy emphasis on their program's historical success—national championships from decades ago, Heisman trophies from 30+ years ago, all-time win records—and use that history as evidence that their program is currently superior to teams that are actually winning more games right now?
I get being proud of your program's legacy. History matters to fans, tradition is part of what makes college football special. But I see fans frequently argue that their team is "better" than another program based almost entirely on what happened 20, 30, or even 50 years ago, even when the present-day results tell a completely different story.
Is it just more satisfying to claim superiority based on the past when the present isn't living up to those standards?
I'm not trying to bash anyone. I'm legitimately trying to understand this mindset. What makes historical success feel like a valid claim to current superiority?
Why do so many fans put such heavy emphasis on their program's historical success—national championships from decades ago, Heisman trophies from 30+ years ago, all-time win records—and use that history as evidence that their program is currently superior to teams that are actually winning more games right now?
I get being proud of your program's legacy. History matters to fans, tradition is part of what makes college football special. But I see fans frequently argue that their team is "better" than another program based almost entirely on what happened 20, 30, or even 50 years ago, even when the present-day results tell a completely different story.
Is it just more satisfying to claim superiority based on the past when the present isn't living up to those standards?
I'm not trying to bash anyone. I'm legitimately trying to understand this mindset. What makes historical success feel like a valid claim to current superiority?
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