TheWhiteRider
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re: Ukraine’s ‘victory plan’ is delusional
Posted by TheWhiteRider on 10/1/24 at 12:14 am
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And that is without even getting into the fact that Ukrainian membership in NATO is laughable at best. They don't meet the requirements, and they absolutely would never get past the membership requirements
You lost me here. It’s been well documented they’re on their way there.
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They’ve been pushed into serious NATO talks since 2021. It’s easily researched and documented.
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re: Ukraine’s ‘victory plan’ is delusional
Posted by TheWhiteRider on 10/1/24 at 12:08 am
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Completely agree and have never said otherwise. Its their faux-justification for doing so that I am saying is not the truth. They aren't scared of NATO bordering Russia. They want Ukraine to be Russia because they think it IS Russia. Again, that isn't a totally unreasonable historical position
I also agree. Where I disagree is I believe it’s a combo of the two. Russia doesn’t want NATO in Ukraine and also believes it has a right to Ukraine. I wouldn’t use the word “scared” of NATO in Ukraine, more like they’d rather not have NATO there. Your previous example of other neighboring countries in NATO isn’t quite the equivalent analogy you think it is in comparison to Ukraine for obvious reasons.
re: Ukraine’s ‘victory plan’ is delusional
Posted by TheWhiteRider on 10/1/24 at 12:03 am
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I really am curious about just what is in Zelensky's "victory plan". Even at a high level. He's been adamant that he'll sacrifice every single Ukrainian man and boy before he let's Russia keep a square inch of Ukrainian territory. I just don't see any way that is possible without NATO directly intervening.
He doesn’t have one. They cannot beat Russia. It’s a money laundering scheme until they can figure out how to allocate foreign assets (mostly United States) out of the country before it’s taken.
re: Ukraine’s ‘victory plan’ is delusional
Posted by TheWhiteRider on 10/1/24 at 12:00 am
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What part, specifically? I'm not watching your YouTube video. speak for yourself.
Fine, don’t. It’s an 80 second video detailing the expansion of NATO with a timeline map. It’s just a time management thing rather than typing paragraphs about dozens of countries over decades of time that I’m not about to type out when a simple video exemplifies it.
re: Ukraine’s ‘victory plan’ is delusional
Posted by TheWhiteRider on 9/30/24 at 10:51 pm
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Didn't Putin specifically say that Ukraine as a NATO member was a problem in the past.
He’s been voicing his discontent with them joining NATO for 2 decades.
re: Ukraine’s ‘victory plan’ is delusional
Posted by TheWhiteRider on 9/30/24 at 10:37 pm
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NATO has bordered Russia's most vital strategic naval region since the day NATO was formed. NATO has bordered Russia's southern flank since the mid-fifties. NATO bordered the Warsaw pact for 70 years. NATO has bordered Russia proper in eastern Europe for twenty years, and has surrounded Kaliningrad for the same time frame. And now, Russia's 800 mile border with Finland. Russia's Baltic fleet lives in a NATO lake. Bordering NATO on a map is not the issue, and never has been. Influence in regions that Russia considers culturally Russian is the issue. And there is some merit to that argument. The Rus originated in Ukraine and modern Belarus. NATO is just a convenient excuse.
You’re flat out incorrect about this. Watch this short YouTube video.
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Russia has been pretty cooperative with the expansion of NATO but has also openly stated their discouragement of pushing East and making Ukraine a NATO base FOR DECADES. The entire theme of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine being the beginning of Russian’s invasion into more of Western Europe is Western media bullshite fed to people bc Ukraine has been utilized as a funnel for money laundering and God knows what else for the last 3 decades by Western powers, namely the United States.
re: Ukraine’s ‘victory plan’ is delusional
Posted by TheWhiteRider on 9/30/24 at 9:07 pm
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Nobody wins in this situation. Russia has lost more in blood and treasure than the area is worth
It’s worth not having a NATO military base on Russia’s border down the road. Which would have eventually happened if Russia didn’t invade.
re: Ukraine’s ‘victory plan’ is delusional
Posted by TheWhiteRider on 9/30/24 at 9:05 pm
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Russia had ample time to plan their special operation. They launched it in February of 2022. It has been two years and seven months since then. What is taking Russia so long? You say it’s not bad tactics. You say it’s not because Russian units are imploding. So why was Russia pushed back and why can’t the finish Ukraine off?
2.5 years isn’t very long in terms of military operations. Ukraine is being flooded with US military aid to keep their scam of a country going as corrupt political figures in America are trying to buy time to keep their honey pot operation over there running until they figure out their next move.
re: Waking up to news that Florida may become the dog that returns to its vomit
Posted by TheWhiteRider on 9/17/24 at 10:33 am
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USC steered clear of him and for good reason. Florida may want him back?
USC steer cleared bc they’ve had arguably more academic and institutional scandals than any other major program in the country.
re: OSU, Texas, TAMU all combine for 1 championship in 40 years despite….
Posted by TheWhiteRider on 9/16/24 at 9:55 pm
It’s actually 1 in 55 years
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