Thicker_Poster
| Favorite team: | Missouri  |
| Location: | Fort Worth, TX |
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| Number of Posts: | 84 |
| Registered on: | 7/18/2024 |
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re: Drinkwitz Is Good — But He Might Be Overrated If We Want to Be Elite
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 11/17/25 at 3:03 pm to ZouKeeper314
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Fact! Mizzou beats #1 UGA, but their safety didn't give up on the play and caught Shrader at the 2 yard line. No one talks about that play, but if Shrader scores, Mizzou is on a different trajectory.
Fact: Mizzou lost that game so it's a moot point
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Problem with him is he i too loyal with his staff. There are at least a couple coaches that need to be fired when the season is over.
I agree. He's gotta show some ball and fire Moore. We can't look like world beaters against .500 and below, then run the same plays and expect the same results against the big boys.
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re: Drinkwitz Is Good — But He Might Be Overrated If We Want to Be Elite
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 11/17/25 at 11:33 am to Thicker_Poster
Just wanted to clarify — I’m not trying to be negative on Drinkwitz or the program. I just want to put things in perspective given some of the excitement and media hype floating around.
The reality is: Mizzou has never been an elite program. The wins against LSU, Kansas State, and Ohio State were great for where we were, but we need to be honest about what that means in the broader SEC and national picture.
We’re still levels above where the Odom era left us. Drinkwitz has recruited well, developed talent, and gotten the program respect. That’s a big deal — we should celebrate it.
Right now, I’d place Eli a level above Butch Jones at Tennessee — that’s where he is today, not necessarily where he’ll be in a year or two. That’s important to remember: his current status is strong, but we can’t project elite-level success prematurely.
At the same time, until proven otherwise, we shouldn’t expect Mizzou to consistently beat the Bamas and the Georges of the world. Those programs are built differently, and elite status takes sustained wins against top-10 teams, something we haven’t consistently shown yet.
So, again — not trying to downplay those wins. They were important, meaningful victories for the program. But until we see a trend of beating the truly elite programs, we are what we are. Respect the progress, enjoy the wins, but let’s pump the brakes on expecting instant elite-level results.
Patience is the key — and if this trajectory continues, the next few years will be very telling for Drinkwitz and the Tigers.
The reality is: Mizzou has never been an elite program. The wins against LSU, Kansas State, and Ohio State were great for where we were, but we need to be honest about what that means in the broader SEC and national picture.
We’re still levels above where the Odom era left us. Drinkwitz has recruited well, developed talent, and gotten the program respect. That’s a big deal — we should celebrate it.
Right now, I’d place Eli a level above Butch Jones at Tennessee — that’s where he is today, not necessarily where he’ll be in a year or two. That’s important to remember: his current status is strong, but we can’t project elite-level success prematurely.
At the same time, until proven otherwise, we shouldn’t expect Mizzou to consistently beat the Bamas and the Georges of the world. Those programs are built differently, and elite status takes sustained wins against top-10 teams, something we haven’t consistently shown yet.
So, again — not trying to downplay those wins. They were important, meaningful victories for the program. But until we see a trend of beating the truly elite programs, we are what we are. Respect the progress, enjoy the wins, but let’s pump the brakes on expecting instant elite-level results.
Patience is the key — and if this trajectory continues, the next few years will be very telling for Drinkwitz and the Tigers.
Drinkwitz Is Good — But He Might Be Overrated If We Want to Be Elite
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 11/17/25 at 10:43 am
I want to be clear up front — I’m not a Drinkwitz hater. Compared to the Odom years, he’s done a great job stabilizing the program, upgrading talent, and delivering some exciting seasons. But if the goal is becoming elite, actually competing for CFP spots every year, we need to look past the shiny record and look at who he beats and who he doesn’t.
When you break down his résumé — ranked teams, CFP top-25 opponents, top-10 opponents, and teams with winning records — the résumé looks more average than “elite.”
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2021–2025: The Resume Beneath the Surface
2021 LSU “Signature Win” — Completely Overrated
People still cling to this one like it was some monumental upset.
Reality check:
LSU finished 6–7 in 2021
3–5 in SEC
Lost the Texas Bowl
Locker room was a disaster, Orgeron was on his way out
This wasn’t a powerhouse LSU team. It wasn’t even a good LSU team.
It was a broken, losing program. Calling that a major win is a reach.
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2023 Season: Great Record, But Look Closer
Record vs Ranked Teams at Game Time (2023):
4–2
Wins: Kansas State, Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio State (Cotton Bowl)
Losses: LSU, Georgia
Record vs Final CFP Top-25 (2023): 2–2
Record vs Final CFP Top-10 (2023): 0–1
Vs Winning / .500 / Losing Teams (2023):
Vs winning teams: 4–2
Vs .500 teams: 2–0
Vs losing teams: 5–0
? He beat the teams he should beat. The elite teams? Not so much.
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About That “Signature” Cotton Bowl Win Over Ohio State
People call this one proof that Drinkwitz can beat the biggest programs in the country.
But context matters:
Ohio State was missing multiple star players
Several starters opted out
Key playmakers on offense and defense were out
The Buckeyes were basically a B-team roster by kickoff
A win is a win — but if you’re using this as “Drinkwitz can take down national powers,” you’re stretching it. That was not the Ohio State that plays in the CFP every year.
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2023 Kansas State Win — Also Overrated
Ranked at the time, sure. But:
K-State finished 9–4
Not top-10
Not a playoff contender
Solid team, not elite
Another good win, but not a program-changing one.
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2024 Season – Regression vs Elite Teams
Lost to ranked Alabama
Didn’t beat any CFP top-10 teams
Again: beat the beatable, struggled in the games that actually matter for elite status
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2025 Season (So Far)
As of today:
7–3 overall
3–3 SEC
No wins against teams that project to finish in the CFP Top-10
Again, the wins are against teams with average or below-average records
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Big Picture: Good Coach, But Not Elite
I’ll absolutely give Drinkwitz his credit:
He recruits well
He develops players
He’s better than Odom
He stabilized the program and made Mizzou fun again
But if your goal is respectable, he’s your guy.
If your goal is elite, competing for championships, beating top-10 teams consistently, and moving into national contention?
He hasn’t shown the ability to do that. Not yet.
His résumé is built on:
Beating .500 or losing teams
Occasional wins over “good, not great” teams
No consistent wins over CFP top-10 teams
“Signature” wins that come with context and asterisks
That’s why I say he’s basically:
One level higher than Butch Jones at Tennessee — good, but not elite.
Drinkwitz is the bridge.
But he might not be the guy that gets Mizzou to the other side.
When you break down his résumé — ranked teams, CFP top-25 opponents, top-10 opponents, and teams with winning records — the résumé looks more average than “elite.”
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2021–2025: The Resume Beneath the Surface
2021 LSU “Signature Win” — Completely Overrated
People still cling to this one like it was some monumental upset.
Reality check:
LSU finished 6–7 in 2021
3–5 in SEC
Lost the Texas Bowl
Locker room was a disaster, Orgeron was on his way out
This wasn’t a powerhouse LSU team. It wasn’t even a good LSU team.
It was a broken, losing program. Calling that a major win is a reach.
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2023 Season: Great Record, But Look Closer
Record vs Ranked Teams at Game Time (2023):
4–2
Wins: Kansas State, Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio State (Cotton Bowl)
Losses: LSU, Georgia
Record vs Final CFP Top-25 (2023): 2–2
Record vs Final CFP Top-10 (2023): 0–1
Vs Winning / .500 / Losing Teams (2023):
Vs winning teams: 4–2
Vs .500 teams: 2–0
Vs losing teams: 5–0
? He beat the teams he should beat. The elite teams? Not so much.
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About That “Signature” Cotton Bowl Win Over Ohio State
People call this one proof that Drinkwitz can beat the biggest programs in the country.
But context matters:
Ohio State was missing multiple star players
Several starters opted out
Key playmakers on offense and defense were out
The Buckeyes were basically a B-team roster by kickoff
A win is a win — but if you’re using this as “Drinkwitz can take down national powers,” you’re stretching it. That was not the Ohio State that plays in the CFP every year.
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2023 Kansas State Win — Also Overrated
Ranked at the time, sure. But:
K-State finished 9–4
Not top-10
Not a playoff contender
Solid team, not elite
Another good win, but not a program-changing one.
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2024 Season – Regression vs Elite Teams
Lost to ranked Alabama
Didn’t beat any CFP top-10 teams
Again: beat the beatable, struggled in the games that actually matter for elite status
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2025 Season (So Far)
As of today:
7–3 overall
3–3 SEC
No wins against teams that project to finish in the CFP Top-10
Again, the wins are against teams with average or below-average records
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Big Picture: Good Coach, But Not Elite
I’ll absolutely give Drinkwitz his credit:
He recruits well
He develops players
He’s better than Odom
He stabilized the program and made Mizzou fun again
But if your goal is respectable, he’s your guy.
If your goal is elite, competing for championships, beating top-10 teams consistently, and moving into national contention?
He hasn’t shown the ability to do that. Not yet.
His résumé is built on:
Beating .500 or losing teams
Occasional wins over “good, not great” teams
No consistent wins over CFP top-10 teams
“Signature” wins that come with context and asterisks
That’s why I say he’s basically:
One level higher than Butch Jones at Tennessee — good, but not elite.
Drinkwitz is the bridge.
But he might not be the guy that gets Mizzou to the other side.
re: Brother in Law is tied in @ Louisiana State politics
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 10/28/25 at 6:21 am to notsince98
But the man can croot!
re: Zoellers
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 10/26/25 at 6:10 am to Bobbybro
This season is down the tubes.
On the plus side, Zoellers will get some much-needed play time and will be ready to go for next season.
On the plus side, Zoellers will get some much-needed play time and will be ready to go for next season.
Why are there not more posts about the biggest SEC game this weekend?
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 10/23/25 at 5:14 pm
Mizzou @ Vandy!!!!
College Game Day!!!!
#15 vs. #10
Beat Vandy!!!!! F that Burqueno!
:mizzou:
College Game Day!!!!
#15 vs. #10
Beat Vandy!!!!! F that Burqueno!
:mizzou:
re: Mizzou's 2026-2029 Schedules
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/24/25 at 8:11 pm to Mizz-SEC
7-5 and 8-4 will be the new normal for a great season.
re: Why no mention of the new rival schedule release on Paul Finebaum?
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/22/25 at 4:06 pm to Clark14
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People in missouri don’t care about sec football.
Yes, they care about SEC football as much as the SEC cares about Mizzou football.
re: Why no mention of the new rival schedule release on Paul Finebaum?
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/22/25 at 3:33 pm to nicholastiger
Who’s gonna sit and watch that now that we already know?
Sorry, I forgot — most people in the South don’t have internet and only have antenna TV.
His phone lines have magically “dropped” too.
Sorry, I forgot — most people in the South don’t have internet and only have antenna TV.
His phone lines have magically “dropped” too.
Why no mention of the new rival schedule release on Paul Finebaum?
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/22/25 at 3:13 pm
I’ve been watching the Finebaum Show today to see the reaction from callers and fans about the new rival schedule release, and there’s been zero mention of it. Is his Monday show taped? Or could it be that the SEC brass got to Paul and told him to stay quiet about it?
It would be kind of weird for the SEC Network to stay quiet about it, thinking that their reveal show tomorrow is going to do some ratings, when everybody has already seen the list — unless the list isn’t actually official. Maybe they’re only counting on all the boomers who aren’t internet savvy and haven’t seen it yet. But still, kind of weird.
It would be kind of weird for the SEC Network to stay quiet about it, thinking that their reveal show tomorrow is going to do some ratings, when everybody has already seen the list — unless the list isn’t actually official. Maybe they’re only counting on all the boomers who aren’t internet savvy and haven’t seen it yet. But still, kind of weird.
re: Missouri’s Rivalry Application for South Carolina Officially Denied
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/22/25 at 11:14 am to Cockopotamus
I wouldn't want to get owned by Mizzou every year if I was South Carolina, eithet.
We just want you because you're more competitive than that Arkansas punching bag.
We just want you because you're more competitive than that Arkansas punching bag.
re: what do leftists actually mean when they call people fascists?
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/15/25 at 6:28 am to Jrv2damac
Damnit Jrv2damac, I have to up-vote this post. :cheers:
re: How should trans people be dealt with going forward?
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/14/25 at 8:35 pm to GeneralLee
See Pinochet
re: So we get South Carolina
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/14/25 at 8:34 pm to BlacknGoldNuts
Don't Forget
Drink: 3
Beamer: 1
Last year, I think SC had a much better team and still only beat Mizzou by one score.
This year, I think Mizzou has way more weapons.
Drink: 3
Beamer: 1
Last year, I think SC had a much better team and still only beat Mizzou by one score.
This year, I think Mizzou has way more weapons.
re: Did Missouri hang a banner for winning their Superbowl vs Kansas?
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/12/25 at 5:53 pm to GetPiggywithIt
I'm not proud of this.
re: Culture is the problem, not the color of one’s skin.
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/9/25 at 7:01 pm to HeadCall
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Specifically ghetto culture of course
This is prevalent in one particular demographic.
re: I am completely numb after watching the Charlotte video.
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/9/25 at 6:58 pm to BamaScoop
What did they have in common?
re: I am completely numb after watching the Charlotte video.
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 9/9/25 at 6:57 pm to GooseSix
I'm starting to think the whites in the first half of the 1900s acted the way they did for reasons other than skin color.
re: Who needs GameDay? SEC Nation Rolling In:
Posted by Thicker_Poster on 8/31/25 at 9:23 pm to Tiger_Claw
I'll be there to congratulate Tebow on losing his virginity.
I know it's 9 months late, but better late than never.
I know it's 9 months late, but better late than never.
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